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re: World War I ended 108 years ago today
Posted on 11/11/26 at 12:43 pm to KiwiHead
Posted on 11/11/26 at 12:43 pm to KiwiHead
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Somehow there is a contingent on this board who thinks the West could have stopped the Bolsheviks....if we really wanted to. There was NOTHING we or the British could have done to prevent revolution in Russia and the powers that be in the West did not want it either.
I think what people are saying is the Bolshevik/communist part of the revolution could have been avoided, not that there wasn't going to be revolution in Russia. In fact, as you probably know the February Revolution had already occurred in Russia resulting in the abdication of Czar Nicholas II and the end of the Russian Empire being replaced by a Russian Republic not led by Bolsheviks or communists. It was later in October 1917 that the Bolshevik/communist revolution began to overtake the new Russian Republic.
Posted on 11/11/26 at 12:49 pm to donut
Karensky's government was a dead man walking before it was ever born. Lenin had placed the Bolsheviks in key locations and jobs as the revolution started. They controlled the railways and the communications. The provisional government was weak.....vert weak. The only question was what flavor of communist you would get and when.
Posted on 11/11/26 at 12:58 pm to duckblind56
Say what you want about Pershing and Foch, but from a war fighting and strategic aspect they were dead on correct. You declare "victory" because the enemy says they are done fighting but still has a hold in your territory. So you have an enemy who is militarily not defeated.....only politically at home. By definition, the Germans still held the advantage. They were still in France and Belgium, they had knocked the Russians out of the war, the homeland was untouched by the French, British and Americans.
It's tie at best and as the "victor" you are left figuratively kissing your sister.
It's tie at best and as the "victor" you are left figuratively kissing your sister.
Posted on 11/11/26 at 1:10 pm to Stinger_1066
I'll argue otherwise. The problems faced in France today are more a result of policy decisions enacted as a result of Algeria, mainly. Remember Algeria was France.....not a colony with a million Europeans living there around the end of WWI. Then in the 30's the French decided to open up citizenship to most non European Algerians as they were living in "France"
Algeria was thecstarting point of the problems....so this starts in the early 1960s. The French and even English populations fared well during WW II compared to the Germans and those in Eastern Europe.....let's just say they suffered much less
Algeria was thecstarting point of the problems....so this starts in the early 1960s. The French and even English populations fared well during WW II compared to the Germans and those in Eastern Europe.....let's just say they suffered much less
Posted on 11/11/26 at 3:08 pm to RollTide1987
If you have chance, watch the movie-documentary “They Shall Not Grow Old” produced and directed by Peter Jackson (Lord of the Rings fame) and released in 2018 on 11/11/2018. His British grandfather fought and was severely wounded in WW1, and P Jackson is a WW1 buff.
He was asked-commissioned by the British government to do a documentary commemorating the 100 year anniversary of the end of WW1. He was given cart blanche on what he produced, only asked to use as much old archival film and interviews with WW1 veterans, recorded in 1960-70s, as possible.
His ~ 1/2 hour recount of the making of the documentary, and all the technology he used, the incredible attention to detail and accuracy, and the difficulties associated with the production, was every bit as interesting as the documentary itself.
He was asked-commissioned by the British government to do a documentary commemorating the 100 year anniversary of the end of WW1. He was given cart blanche on what he produced, only asked to use as much old archival film and interviews with WW1 veterans, recorded in 1960-70s, as possible.
His ~ 1/2 hour recount of the making of the documentary, and all the technology he used, the incredible attention to detail and accuracy, and the difficulties associated with the production, was every bit as interesting as the documentary itself.
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