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World War I ended 108 years ago today
Posted on 11/11/26 at 6:00 am
Posted on 11/11/26 at 6:00 am
November 11, 1918.
Posted on 11/11/26 at 6:23 am to RollTide1987
Imagine being an enlisted man in that shite
Posted on 11/11/26 at 6:42 am to RollTide1987
The thing that the French did not necessarily want to admit was that many of the same problems facing Germany internally and with the armed forces was already starting to happen to them. There were more and more mutinies amongst various units of the French army as well. But the internal problems inside Germany were far more critical. They had unleashed the communists by using Lenin as a pawn to get Nicholas out the War and the communists sewed a lot of anarchy in the cities and factories. Mass protests and strikes. You had Liebnecht and Luxemburg going around encouraging revolution. Add to it the blockade by the British was having the desired effect as well.
But, I think what really ended it was the collapse of the Austrians a few weeks before coupled with the quitting by the Bulgarians before that. When that happened, all that was left was for the Kaiser to find a retirement home.....that forced Ludendorff and Hindenburg to seek a negotiated peace that later they disowned.
I'm not sure the French generals and staff were all that happy to sign the Armistice . But they had an enemy coming to them saying they wanted to quit, so what can they do? Kind of like Ray Leonard when Duran walks out in the middle of the fight throws his hand up and says "No mas"
Yeah, you won, I guess. You probably were always going to win, but......this probably felt.......unsatifying?
But, I think what really ended it was the collapse of the Austrians a few weeks before coupled with the quitting by the Bulgarians before that. When that happened, all that was left was for the Kaiser to find a retirement home.....that forced Ludendorff and Hindenburg to seek a negotiated peace that later they disowned.
I'm not sure the French generals and staff were all that happy to sign the Armistice . But they had an enemy coming to them saying they wanted to quit, so what can they do? Kind of like Ray Leonard when Duran walks out in the middle of the fight throws his hand up and says "No mas"
Yeah, you won, I guess. You probably were always going to win, but......this probably felt.......unsatifying?
This post was edited on 11/11/26 at 6:44 am
Posted on 11/11/26 at 6:47 am to RollTide1987
Imagine the world where the Brit’s stay out.
No Nazi germany. No communism. No Middle East quagmire.
No Nazi germany. No communism. No Middle East quagmire.
Posted on 11/11/26 at 6:49 am to KiwiHead
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The thing that the French did not necessarily want to admit was that many of the same problems facing Germany internally and with the armed forces was already starting to happen to them.
Not even close.
The mutinies in the French army were a thing of 1917 and had all but ceased by the major campaigns of 1918. The German Empire was collapsing in on itself by November 1918. The Kaiser had abdicated, revolution and death had gripped the streets, and the population was starving due to the Allied blockade that had been placed upon it since the opening of hostilities back in 1914.
The French had suffered a lot, to be sure, during the First World War. But their problems were tame compared to what was happening in Germany by the end of the war.
Posted on 11/11/26 at 6:57 am to RollTide1987
I did some of that scary age math on my bday yesterday. What was going on 52 years before I was born? The Republicans lost 77 House seats and 6 senate seats, but they still retained power of note.
And literal fascism was underway as the Ottoman Empire crumbled.
And literal fascism was underway as the Ottoman Empire crumbled.
Posted on 11/11/26 at 6:59 am to RollTide1987
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All Quiet On The Western Front
One of the most depressing movies ever, particularly the most recent edition. WW1 was just plain awful, a lot of old generals using old tactics that got a lot of young men killed. Imagine the Siege of Petersburg in the Civil War, but with automatic weapons and barbed wire. France never fully recovered.
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:36 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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a lot of old generals using old tactics that got a lot of young men killed
Unfortunately, that was just the way warfare was in the early-20th century. The technology had far outpaced the tactics and it was almost impossible to follow-up major breakthroughs with any type of success due to the lack of good communication.
Think about it. There were no portable radios in the First World War. Any report of a breakthrough in the line had to be sent back to HQ via runner or courier pigeon. By the time word got back to the rear and reinforcements were allocated to send into the breach, the opposing side had already recovered and sent in their own reserves to seal the breach in the line.
There were some genuinely incompetent generals who were in charge during the First World War - Austria's Franz Conrad von Hotzendorff and Italy's Luigi Cadorna spring to mind almost immediately - but most national commanders were doing their best in impossible circumstances.

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