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re: Will Smith Murder Trial-Guilty of manslaughter and attempted manslaughter
Posted on 12/11/16 at 5:03 pm to Festus
Posted on 12/11/16 at 5:03 pm to Festus
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If I'm on jury, I think long and hard about that. But a phantom gun, and huge police cover up, with no corroboration evidence? What were they thinking?
yea reminded me of a Les Miles offense coming out of halftime. No adjustments. Went with the original script no matter what.
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Posted on 12/11/16 at 5:07 pm to Lester Earl
What's the general feeling around town, if one? Are people generally pro CH or WS?
Posted on 12/11/16 at 5:08 pm to Lester Earl
Yep. The defense actually had the lead at halftime
But they came out still running passing plays when they just needed to pound the rock. I think they were caught off guard by the states lack of ability to actually pinpoint a witness to say they viewed Hayes during the shoooting
But they came out still running passing plays when they just needed to pound the rock. I think they were caught off guard by the states lack of ability to actually pinpoint a witness to say they viewed Hayes during the shoooting
Posted on 12/11/16 at 5:10 pm to lsupride87
circumstances suck... but it's been a pleasure gabbing with all you goobers during this trial
Posted on 12/11/16 at 5:11 pm to LNCHBOX
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but we don't believe when he says WS had a gun?
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Why would we? The evidence does not support that.
CH immediately said "he had a gun. What was I supposed to do?"
Now how did he know WS hard a gun if it was holstered, between the seat and console? If they never find a gun in the car, then he lied. That's not the case.
Here's what we KNOW. We know Hayes was immediately honest about shooting. We know from testimony that Hayes was remorseful. We know from testimony that Smith was the aggressor. We KNOW the NOPD is extremely crooked.
I believe Hayes was the most honest in a trial where likely everyone lied some.
What if he's telling the whole truth? Smith and wife were at opposite front doors struggling over the gun in the glove box and it goes off, striking her and lodging in the door. Hayes hears this and draws his from his hip Smith swings left (maybe fires) as he's exiting and takes 1 to the side, turns back into the car and takes 7 more. Hayes puts his down tells KO to call 911 and guess cry. Someone, maybe cops, maybe friends, holsters the gun and wedges it into the seat.
Defense hasn't proven this to me, but they don't have the burden State hasn't proven otherwise beyond a reasonable doubt.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 5:12 pm to bayourougebengal
quote:You are an ignorant retarded relative of Hayes
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but we don't believe when he says WS had a gun?
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Why would we? The evidence does not support that.
CH immediately said "he had a gun. What was I supposed to do?"
Now how did he know WS hard a gun if it was holstered, between the seat and console? If they never find a gun in the car, then he lied. That's not the case.
Here's what we KNOW. We know Hayes was immediately honest about shooting. We know from testimony that Hayes was remorseful. We know from testimony that Smith was the aggressor. We KNOW the NOPD is extremely crooked.
I believe Hayes was the most honest in a trial where likely everyone lied some.
What if he's telling the whole truth? Smith and wife were at opposite front doors struggling over the gun in the glove box and it goes off, striking her and lodging in the door. Hayes hears this and draws his from his hip Smith swings left (maybe fires) as he's exiting and takes 1 to the side, turns back into the car and takes 7 more. Hayes puts his down tells KO to call 911 and guess cry. Someone, maybe cops, maybe friends, holsters the gun and wedges it into the seat.
Defense hasn't proven this to me, but they don't have the burden State hasn't proven otherwise beyond a reasonable doubt.
Saved y'all the trouble
Posted on 12/11/16 at 5:13 pm to bayourougebengal
That's a whole lot of pro Hayes spin.
Hayes straight up lied on the stand regarding Smith shooting first.
Hayes straight up lied on the stand regarding Smith shooting first.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 5:13 pm to lsupride87
Serious question, is Hayes black or white?
Posted on 12/11/16 at 5:13 pm to bayourougebengal
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What if he's telling the whole truth? Smith and wife were at opposite front doors struggling over the gun in the glove box and it goes off, striking her and lodging in the door. Hayes hears this and draws his from his hip Smith swings left (maybe fires) as he's exiting and takes 1 to the side, turns back into the car and takes 7 more. Hayes puts his down tells KO to call 911 and guess cry. Someone, maybe cops, maybe friends, holsters the gun and wedges it into th
Posted on 12/11/16 at 5:13 pm to Festus
If WS shot at CH first and was right handed, he had to be facing him or facing interior of the MB. That said, return fire from CH would have struck WS in chest or RIGHT side, not left side or back. And, and, and why did someone shoot RS first?
Posted on 12/11/16 at 5:14 pm to bayourougebengal
I literally don't KNOW one thing you've declared that we all know. Kinda blows your argument.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 5:14 pm to bayourougebengal
I agree. I ended up kind of feeling sorry for CH after all this.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 5:14 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 12/11/16 at 5:15 pm to Lester Earl
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there are witnesses that said they heard Will Smith mention retrieving his gun
Wait what? Can you provide a link for that? The only person I heard testify to that was Cardell Hayes who had more holes in his story than Will Smith had in his back!
Posted on 12/11/16 at 5:16 pm to Janky
Black
Posted on 12/11/16 at 5:17 pm to TigahJay
Thank you.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 5:17 pm to LNCHBOX
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LNCHBOX
It's not a pro Hayes spin. I'm totally unbiased and if he did commit murder I hope he rots. I just don't believe he did. As for you. You've been a loud mouth fricking prick this whole thread and I guarantee you wouldn't be that same person with many people in person.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 5:17 pm to bayourougebengal
200+ pages and this is the most ridiculous post in 6 days
Posted on 12/11/16 at 5:18 pm to Rocky4LSU
Closing arguments
Posted on 12/11/16 at 5:18 pm to bayourougebengal
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It's not a pro Hayes spin. I
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I believe Hayes was the most honest in a trial where likely everyone lied some. What if he's telling the whole truth? Smith and wife were at opposite front doors struggling over the gun in the glove box and it goes off, striking her and lodging in the door. Hayes hears this and draws his from his hip Smith swings left (maybe fires) as he's exiting and takes 1 to the side, turns back into the car and takes 7 more. Hayes puts his down tells KO to call 911 and guess cry. Someone, maybe cops, maybe friends, holsters the gun and wedges it into the seat.
Reasonable and unbiased
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