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re: Why Is Illegal Immigration a Thing When Visas are So Easy?
Posted on 7/12/25 at 11:25 am to PurpleandGold Motown
Posted on 7/12/25 at 11:25 am to PurpleandGold Motown
It's definitely not easy or cheap to do it right. My wife has family members who did it the right way and it cost them thousands of dollars, lots of headaches with different attorneys and a few years of their time. And that's for someone educated to come over here in a career that needed people.
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Posted on 7/12/25 at 11:30 am to Ingeniero
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It's definitely not easy or cheap to do it right. My wife has family members who did it the right way and it cost them thousands of dollars, lots of headaches with different attorneys and a few years of their time. And that's for someone educated to come over here in a career that needed people.
You guys are talking about permanent residency -- not seasonal work.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 11:44 am to Ingeniero
It isnt easy at all and can vary by country. My cuban ex got asylum and it was a difficult road for that. So much so that the cuban gossip pages were pissed at her
Posted on 7/12/25 at 12:09 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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You guys are talking about permanent residency
Right. H1Bs aren't a given, but it's a lot easier than getting a green card.
It's also not just for seasonal work. It also requires the company employing you to do the initial paperwork; you can't get an H1B and then look for a job, you need a sponsoring employer first. A lot of professionals who work on H1B visas were students who had a job offer before graduating.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 12:21 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
Your brother must have an HR department and immigration attorneys who handle the difficult and expensive parts… We spend several thousand to enter the random lottery with no promise of being selected. Lottery Group A is the only group guaranteed their full request. We were group D this year and fortunately got our guys under the supplemental cap which is limited to returning workers and requires additional filings and fees. 11 of our 12 visas went to guys we’ve bought previously and we had over 300 applicants for the 1 remaining visa. Between filing fees, travel reimbursement, housing assistance, and having to pay all of our guys the DOL prevailing wage there are minimal savings over hiring local guys and carrying them through winter, just can’t find enough local guys.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 12:23 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
Illegals usually try to sneak in their family. With H2B the family stays in the home country and is at risk from undesirables leveraging them for $$
Posted on 7/12/25 at 12:33 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
On the other side of the coin let me tell you about Ricardo.
He worked for a fiends maintenance company, he was illegal as shite. He was cheap and worked harder than anyone I've ever seen. It was hard to hate on the guy as he sent much of his pay back to family in mexico.
One night he stole a car and shot at someone in little Rock and was eventually deported. We all wondered if he would be back or not. 3 weeks later Ricardo was back at work in little Rock.
He worked for a fiends maintenance company, he was illegal as shite. He was cheap and worked harder than anyone I've ever seen. It was hard to hate on the guy as he sent much of his pay back to family in mexico.
One night he stole a car and shot at someone in little Rock and was eventually deported. We all wondered if he would be back or not. 3 weeks later Ricardo was back at work in little Rock.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 12:43 pm to arpreacherman
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Your brother must have an HR department and immigration attorneys who handle the difficult and expensive parts… We spend several thousand to enter the random lottery with no promise of being selected. Lottery Group A is the only group guaranteed their full request. We were group D this year and fortunately got our guys under the supplemental cap which is limited to returning workers and requires additional filings and fees. 11 of our 12 visas went to guys we’ve bought previously and we had over 300 applicants for the 1 remaining visa. Between filing fees, travel reimbursement, housing assistance, and having to pay all of our guys the DOL prevailing wage there are minimal savings over hiring local guys and carrying them through winter, just can’t find enough local guys.
Yes, my brother's company rents out houses near job sites and puts the workers up for the duration of their stay. Most new hires are cousins or brothers of someone they have already vetted. The point of the thread was just that we have always had foreign laborers and that there is a legal and not particularly onerous method for companies to employ those workers on a seasonal basis. I just hate that the media portrays it in such a disingenous way.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 12:49 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
quote:does your brother give each of his seasonal employees that need a visa a visa?
You guys are talking about permanent residency -- not seasonal work.
H2-A visas don’t have limits, but H2-Bs are limited to 66,000 per year - that’s for the whole USA and it’s split 33,000 per season.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 1:06 pm to GreenRockTiger
I wish I knew the whole story but my dentist told me that in September he and his family need to leave the country as the
govt won’t renew his visa.
He went to a U.S. school for undergrad and dental school, did his residency in the U.S. Then practiced in Bermuda for 10 years and then came back to the U.S. to do a fellowship at Harvard and has been practicing here in the U.S. for I think 6 years or so.
I don’t know the whole story, type of visa, etc but really don’t see this as the type of person we want to boot from this country.
govt won’t renew his visa.
He went to a U.S. school for undergrad and dental school, did his residency in the U.S. Then practiced in Bermuda for 10 years and then came back to the U.S. to do a fellowship at Harvard and has been practicing here in the U.S. for I think 6 years or so.
I don’t know the whole story, type of visa, etc but really don’t see this as the type of person we want to boot from this country.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 1:12 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
You seem like a smart guy OP. Take your question and formulate so feasible and logical theories. Then research them via credible sources.
Or …. Just ask a rhetorical question to fan flames of discord.
Whichever
Or …. Just ask a rhetorical question to fan flames of discord.
Whichever
Posted on 7/12/25 at 1:38 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
Can you go on the government dole if you have a visa?
Posted on 7/12/25 at 1:43 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
I have great respect for your brother for doing the right thing for his company, his workers and his community.
We have become a lazy society.
I had a friend who retired from the Border Patrol and went into a retirement business arranging proper documentation for people to work or migrate here legally. He was not getting rich, but he enjoyed his retirement gig very much. After many years of rounding people up and sending them home, he found ways to legally give everyone a win.
We have become a lazy society.
I had a friend who retired from the Border Patrol and went into a retirement business arranging proper documentation for people to work or migrate here legally. He was not getting rich, but he enjoyed his retirement gig very much. After many years of rounding people up and sending them home, he found ways to legally give everyone a win.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 1:44 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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Seasonal worker visas can be difficult to obtain due to strict eligibility requirements and a complex application process, particularly for H-2B visas. Employers must demonstrate a lack of available U.S. workers and prove that hiring foreign workers won't negatively impact wages or working conditions. The application process involves multiple steps, including labor certification, petition filing, and interview scheduling, with specific timelines and documentation requirements.
Doesn't seem to be as easy as you make it out to be.
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