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Why do so many people have problems using “this” and “next” when referring to days?

Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:00 pm
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
11830 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:00 pm
It’s very simple. This refers to the first one following whatever day you are on. Next means the one after that.
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
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Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:01 pm to
Is Fourth of July this weekend or next?
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:03 pm to
I am someone who uses this and next in the traditional sense. This Wednesday is the Wednesday coming up. Next Wednesday is the one after that.

But it just does not make sense. Wednesday, July 6th, is the next Wednesday. Just call it what it is. If you need to refer to the Wednesday after that refer to it as "Wednesday after next" or "Wednesday the 13th"

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Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:03 pm to
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This refers to the first one following whatever day you are on.


It could also refer to the one that has just passed.
Posted by CheesyF
Member since May 2017
389 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:08 pm to
July 4th is this Monday.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:09 pm to
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This refers to the first one following whatever day you are on.

So, is July 7th this Thursday or next Thursday? It would be the first Thursday following today?
Posted by Tomatocantender
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Member since Jun 2021
4756 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

So, is July 7th this Thursday or next Thursday?


July 7th is this next Thursday coming up. SWIDT?
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
11830 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

It could also refer to the one that has just passed.


“This” should never refer to a day that is in the past.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
11830 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

So, is July 7th this Thursday or next Thursday? It would be the first Thursday following today?


The current day is “today”
Posted by Walkerdog14
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:17 pm to
That would be called yesterday
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
11830 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

July 7th is this next Thursday coming up. SWIDT?


I do see what you did but the two words mean different things so combining them gets things confused. You have a next and you have a this.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18645 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:20 pm to
Because it only works in that specific context.

Example:

You're talking to a friend and you remind him that he owes you $20. He says, "I'll give it to you next time I see you."

Does that mean you'll see him once and he won't pay you (which would be 'this' time he sees you), and then you'll see him again and he will pay you (which would be 'next' time he sees you)?
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
11830 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:22 pm to
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I'll give it to you next time I see you


Two different things here. Next time he sees you is not a set day or time. For what I’m taking about, you have two set upcoming days, where one is this and one is next. I see what you’re saying but it’s not the same.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101919 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

“This” should never refer to a day that is in the past.


And yet it does all the time.

I has pizza for dinner this Tuesday and plan on making burgers next Tuesday.

I was late to work this Monday for a doctor's appointment so I need to make up some hours.

We had record sales this Wednesday, hopefully next Wednesday is just as good.


The thing is, when people say "next" or "this" they are typically shortening "this week's" or "next week's" for brevity. So yeah if you say "this Tuesday" on a Sunday, then it's obviously two days from now.. but if you say "this Tuesday" on a Thursday then it could be two days ago because that was this week's Tuesday.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18645 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

Two different things here. Next time he sees you is not a set day or time. For what I’m taking about, you have two set upcoming days, where one is this and one is next. I see what you’re saying but it’s not the same.



That's my point. You asked why it's so difficult to understand. Now you're admitting that the same words can mean different things in different contexts. Therefore, it can be confusing to some people. That's the answer to your OP.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
11830 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

I has pizza for dinner this Tuesday and plan on making burgers next Tuesday.


No need to say this then. Just say Tuesday.

This should never be used when you want to refer to one that already is in the past.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
11830 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

Therefore, it can be confusing to some people. That's the answer to your OP.


My point is, it’s simple and shouldn’t be confusing.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101919 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

This should never be used when you want to refer to one that already is in the past.


It is though, all the time.

Ever show up to work on a Monday and have someone ask, "what did you do this weekend?"
Posted by Tomatocantender
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Member since Jun 2021
4756 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

but the two words mean different things so combining them gets things confuse


Not confusing at all. It rules out the next 9.5 hours left in this Thursday and is specific to the timeframe that is just over 7 days away from right now. It further gets its validation by finishing the sentence with "coming up."
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16489 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

I has pizza for dinner this Tuesday and plan on making burgers next Tuesday.

I was late to work this Monday for a doctor's appointment so I need to make up some hours.

We had record sales this Wednesday, hopefully next Wednesday is just as good.


The thing is, when people say "next" or "this" they are typically shortening "this week's" or "next week's" for brevity. So yeah if you say "this Tuesday" on a Sunday, then it's obviously two days from now.. but if you say "this Tuesday" on a Thursday then it could be two days ago because that was this week's Tuesday.


This is how it should be. Saying "this" to me implies this week.
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