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Why aren’t people objective when it comes to
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:35 pm
Their most deeply held beliefs?
For instance taking every thing for granted as true in the Bible, but scrutinizing what people tell you in daily life.
For instance taking every thing for granted as true in the Bible, but scrutinizing what people tell you in daily life.
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:36 pm to Masterag
quote:......
Why aren’t people objective when it comes to
Anything
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:36 pm to Masterag
Everyone likes feeling comfortable believing what they want to believe and not what’s fact.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:36 pm to Masterag
Because people like to virtue signal
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:36 pm to Masterag
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but scrutinizing what people tell you in daily life.
Kinda like my wife always saying we don’t need a new roof when I say we do
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:38 pm to Masterag
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:39 pm to Masterag
Oh another one of these threads...
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:40 pm to Masterag
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Their most deeply held beliefs?
Are you?
You're not. You just have different fallacies you cling to
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:40 pm to Masterag
What are your most deeply held beliefs? How did you objectively come to these beliefs?
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:40 pm to Masterag
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objective
quote:Is it even possible to be objective about something you already believe deeply?
deeply held beliefs
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:40 pm to Masterag
You're right. Most people are hypocrites.
Many times you'll get called out by "your side" for not being a hypocrite if you simply call a spade a spade. Go to the poli board and comment on some stupid shite Trump did. If you call it stupid, you'll get called a cuck. If you point out that the same people were critical of Obama for the same things, you'll simply get called a cuck again.
Very few people live by principles, they choose rather to live by what's expedient.
I value objectivity because it's rare. And because I'm confident enough that I don't care if you don't like it.
Many times you'll get called out by "your side" for not being a hypocrite if you simply call a spade a spade. Go to the poli board and comment on some stupid shite Trump did. If you call it stupid, you'll get called a cuck. If you point out that the same people were critical of Obama for the same things, you'll simply get called a cuck again.
Very few people live by principles, they choose rather to live by what's expedient.
I value objectivity because it's rare. And because I'm confident enough that I don't care if you don't like it.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:41 pm to Pecker
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Most people are hypocrites.
All people are hypocrites.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:42 pm to Masterag
Bc frick liberals
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:44 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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All people are hypocrites.
Yep. Accusing someone else of being hypocritical is itself hypocritical.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:45 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Are you?
You're not. You just have different fallacies you cling to
I don’t have any. I’m open to the possibility that I could be completely wrong about what I believe at all times, even the nature of reality itself.
I have no dogmas or ideologies.
But I do understand human nature, at least to the extent that it allows me to analyze peoplea actions on a rudimentary level.
This post was edited on 12/12/18 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:45 pm to northshorebamaman
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Is it even possible to be objective about something you already believe deeply?
You can be objective about the nature of your beliefs.
For example: Christianity is radical, illogical and unscientific. I'm a Christian but I have no problem admitting that. The very nature of Christianity is that it requires faith and radicalism because it's so illogical (i.e. people can't raise from the dead and ascend into the sky).
How silly would it be for me to criticize islam or scientology simply for being radical? I can criticize both for many things, but to criticize Islam for requiring radicalism while ignoring the radical belief requirements of Christianity would be a lack of self-awareness on my part. I can admit that both require radicalism.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:46 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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All people are hypocrites.
Sure, but few desire or attempt to curb their hypocrisy.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:48 pm to Pecker
Wise words. Welcome back, baw.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:49 pm to Pecker
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For example: Christianity is radical, illogical and unscientific. I'm a Christian but I have no problem admitting that. The very nature of Christianity is that it requires faith and radicalism because it's so illogical (i.e. people can't raise from the dead and ascend into the sky).
Let me try to reframe it. Do you feel like you are objective when it comes to specific beliefs? As in Jesus as the son of God (just an example)?
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:53 pm to northshorebamaman
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Let me try to reframe it. Do you feel like you are objective when it comes to specific beliefs? As in Jesus as the son of God (just an example)?
Within the framework of my beliefs. Also in that I can admit where there are logical inconsistencies. It's a difficult question because anything that requires faith isn't objective at its core. But you can be as impartial as possible within a particular framework.
Not sure if that answers your question
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