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re: Why are there no car companies that make cars that looks as good as expensive...
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:00 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:00 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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The reason that most generic sedans look like generic sedans is because the people who buy them are looking for generic sedans. To make them more "stylish" would push away some of their base customers.
You just have to take into consideration that the majority of Americans with buying power aren't well represented by those in the Tigerdroppings OT. It's a younger demographic (for the most part) who want stylish, cool shite. Many, many more people are just looking for something reliable to haul their kids around in. That's why there's still a market for minivans. It blows my mind that anyone would buy such a horrendous piece of machinery to drive around in, yet there are hundreds/thousands of minivans purchased every day by people who seemingly don't care what it looks like - or they think it looks good, which says more about why car-makers still make shite looking vehicles.
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:01 pm to PrimeTime Money
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PrimeTime Money
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make a Honda Accord look as good as an Audi or Mercedes?
Not as "Prime Time" as you let on to the ladies, huh?
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:02 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:I understand that branding does have an influence over people.
If that is all you had ever known, yes absolutely. For you to act like you're surprised branding has an influence over perceived quality is just astounding to me.
However, that influence only goes so far.
Take Kia and Hyundai for example. They used to be thought of as really cheap brands that make ugly cars. But they upped their quality big-time and people have come around to thinking they make very nice vehicles. All with the same branding.
The opposite could be true. Slapping a Mercedes logo on a Prius isn't going to fool people into thinking the car is stylish. Branding carries a certain reputation, but it only goes so far.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:02 pm to LNCHBOX
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If that is all you had ever known, yes absolutely. For you to act like you're surprised branding has an influence over perceived quality is just astounding to me.
I agree that what you are saying makes a small impact on influence but I think if you took the logos off of high end cars compared to low end cars or even swapped I think that most people could tell a difference with the obvious goof balls being the exception.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:04 pm to PrimeTime Money
That isn't an entire explanation, but it is part of an explanation. People perceive high end cars as status symbols and that therefore their designs are desirable. Similarly, whenever a celebrity starts wearing a new hair style that suddenly becomes en vogue.
It isn't a full explanation because the Lexus IS made up of better materials and more styling, yet branding absolutely does have an impact on what we see as "prettier."
It isn't a full explanation because the Lexus IS made up of better materials and more styling, yet branding absolutely does have an impact on what we see as "prettier."
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:04 pm to Pecker
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It blows my mind that anyone would buy such a horrendous piece of machinery to drive around in, yet there are hundreds/thousands of minivans purchased every day by people who seemingly don't care what it looks like - or they think it looks good, which says more about why car-makers still make shite looking vehicles.
I'm pretty sure nobody is buying a minivan because "they think it looks good." I'm guessing it's pretty much purely a functionality decision.
For the record, I've actually tried to sell my wife on getting herself one for that reason, but she wasn't biting.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:05 pm to Pecker
quote:Good point.
You just have to take into consideration that the majority of Americans with buying power aren't well represented by those in the Tigerdroppings OT. It's a younger demographic (for the most part) who want stylish, cool shite. Many, many more people are just looking for something reliable to haul their kids around in. That's why there's still a market for minivans. It blows my mind that anyone would buy such a horrendous piece of machinery to drive around in, yet there are hundreds/thousands of minivans purchased every day by people who seemingly don't care what it looks like - or they think it looks good, which says more about why car-makers still make shite looking vehicles.
Several posters have made some good points.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:05 pm to LNCHBOX
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If you switched the logos on the car, you'd be asking this same question. The Mercedes looks like it is a nicer car to you because you know it is a Mercedes.
That just isn't true. Damn near the entire Toyota car line up is awful from a styling standpoint. It gets even worse as you move up in price point - $40k gets you this piece of shite:
Let me be clear - this thread is not about quality, and Toyota excels at that. It is about styling, and a significant portion of their vehicles miss the mark.
Mazda has actually done a great job IMO. Regardless of your opinion on their quality, the styling is tough to find in those price ranges.
Pretty nice looking vehicle (Infiniti/Audi look IMO) for $30k.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:05 pm to PrimeTime Money
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Take Kia and Hyundai for example. They used to be thought of as really cheap brands that make ugly cars. But they upped their quality big-time and people have come around to thinking they make very nice vehicles. All with the same branding.
The opposite could be true. Slapping a Mercedes logo on a Prius isn't going to fool people into thinking the car is stylish. Branding carries a certain reputation, but it only goes so far.
You are completely missing what I'm saying. I'm not talking about changing the logo on an existing car. I'm talking about had Mercedes been the builder from the get go. You can't tell me with a straight face that higher end cars don't get a certain benefit of the doubt that cheaper cars don't.
I mean, I guess you can, but you'd be wrong.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:06 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:True... but you'd think the manufacturers would want to make them look as good as possible to separate their vehicle from the competition.
I'm pretty sure nobody is buying a minivan because "they think it looks good."
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:07 pm to slackster
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Damn near the entire Toyota car line up is awful from a styling standpoint.
You're just one option. Their sales tells me yours is the minority as well.
Back to OP's question. No one wants to buy a Honda that looks like a Mercedes but still has cloth seats an no tech.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:07 pm to slackster
That car looks like a pissed off old man.
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:07 pm to McCaigBro69
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My girlfriend just bought some Jaguar XF and I kid you not, the selling point to her was that the woodgrain inside all comes from the same tree and not different ones. That was literally what tipped it into her favor. I mean yeah, Acura and fricking Kia aren't going to do that. Ever. But that's just a bit ridiculous.
I'm sure there was a bit more to it than that - the Jaguar sedans blow away everything in their class when it comes to the interior. The Audi A8 and BMW 7 series look downright spartan compared to the XJ. Same for the 5s vs. the XF. The color choices, styling, appearance of the leather ...
This post was edited on 4/7/16 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:08 pm to GaryMyMan
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I think the Mazda 6 does a good job of looking great for under $30k. The interior is well thought out too.
This is what I get for stopping my post to take a phone call. GaryMyMan scooped me.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:08 pm to PrimeTime Money
Don't know; drive a truck.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:09 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:They do get a benefit of the doubt. But that only goes so far.
You are completely missing what I'm saying. I'm not talking about changing the logo on an existing car. I'm talking about had Mercedes been the builder from the get go. You can't tell me with a straight face that higher end cars don't get a certain benefit of the doubt that cheaper cars don't. I mean, I guess you can, but you'd be wrong.
If Mercedes built the Prius from the get-go, people would still think it's a lot uglier than just about every car out there.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:09 pm to LNCHBOX
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You can't tell me with a straight face that higher end cars don't get a certain benefit of the doubt that cheaper cars don't.
I agree. I think that "high end" car companies get the innocent until proven guilty treatment where as "low end" companies get the guilty until proven innocent treatment when it comes to all around package on equally priced packages from the two segments.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:09 pm to LNCHBOX
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Have you considered that styling is subjective and perhaps more people prefer the Camry styling? It has been the number one selling car in America for a while now.
The Camry makes a great car for all of the other reasons you buy a car except styling. I don't see why this is hard to comprehend.
The question in the OP is why do cheaper vehicles have to look like cheaper vehicles. It seems pretty straight forward.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:10 pm to PrimeTime Money
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If Mercedes built the Prius from the get-go, people would still think it's a lot uglier than just about every car out there.
IS this the point where I say prove it? Because I feel like it's about that time.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:11 pm to slackster
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The question in the OP is why do cheaper vehicles have to look like cheaper vehicles. It seems pretty straight forward.
And it's been answered plenty of times. And if you don't think perception of quality is part of the equation, I don't know what to tell you.
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