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re: Who here is a convert to Catholicism?

Posted on 5/3/21 at 5:11 pm to
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 5:11 pm to
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By the way, I appreciate the civil nature of our discussion. I've not had many pleasant or civilized "debates" with Protestants since becoming Catholic. It usually goes south in a hurry.

It has taken me years to acquire the maturity to not immediately blow up and degrade other people

Going from a young Baptist to a high church Presbyterian helped. I do get the appeal of being Roman Catholic whereas I used to be allergic to the very thought of holy water and crucifixes.

I now realize how ignorant and immature that was.
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 5:36 pm
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 5:38 pm to
I guess none of the Catholics around here see fit to address your declarations about the Council of Trent.
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 5:48 pm
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 5:47 pm to
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I guess none of the Catholics around here see fit to address your declarations.
This is likely why (big picture):

Between my sinful self and God stands Christ.

Between Catholics and God stands Christ, the church, the pope, the sacramental economy, indulgences, the treasury of merit, purgatory, and much else. But mainly, the church.

God either requires perfection, as the entire Bible demonstrates, or he doesn’t.

If he does, who or what can stand in our place other than Christ Himself? Isn’t this the whole Bible summarized?

Catholics over emphasize the church, but only slightly. Most Protestants woefully under emphasize it.

These questions remain.
How is Christ received?
How is perfection/righteousness and right standing with God attained?
How is it kept?

How does one become part of the body of Christ?
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 5:57 pm
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 5:54 pm to
Your declarations about the Council of Trent, I meant to say.
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 9:44 am to
I guess that there is no more to be said here, judging by the lack of further input by any Catholics.

Debate, so far, belongs to the Protestant side.
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:13 am to
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Debate, so far, belongs to the Protestant side.

I probably posted too much content and raised too many questions in proportion to what people are willing to respond to.

But, I'd agree with your assessment

Also, the fact that this was anchored two nights ago doesn't help!
Isn't that absurd? One of the few good discussions on the whole board and it's frowned upon

edit: You're Orthodox if I recall??
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 11:16 am
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 7:47 pm to
No, I'm just an observer and a thinker.

I found an interesting quote from a long time ago, around 110 AD.

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Ignatius of Antioch (d. c. 110): “Take note of those who hold heterodox opinions on the grace of Jesus Christ which has come to us, and see how contrary their opinions are to the mind of God. . . . They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, flesh which suffered for our sins and which that Father, in his goodness, raised up again. They who deny the gift of God are perishing in their disputes” (Letter to the Smyrnaeans 6:2–7:1).
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 9:22 pm to
The Eucharist is an interesting topic to be sure.
I’m probably closer to a Catholic view of transubstantiation than I am a generic Baptist or non denom view of remembrance (if non denom churches even do communion).

I know Baptists partake about once a quarter, maybe less. It’s a travesty.
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:18 pm to
Regardless of their beliefs on the topic - I totally agree with you - there is no reason why they can't partake more often. IMHO it would be good for the congregation.
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