re: Which States Are in the South?

"American historians often write of a contrast between the South, a closed reactionary society, and the West, free and open and characteristically American. The dichotomy thus presented is a false one. The West is the South. That is, to the extent that the West is a theatre for heroic action, rather than just a place to start a new business, it is the Old South transmitted to a new environment. The cowboy, to the degree that he represents the embodiment of a code of life rather than just a person who tends animals, is nothing more or less than the Virginia gentleman on the plains.

It is no accident that the most famous Western novel, written by a Pennsylvanian, Owen Wister, and set in Wyoming, was called The Virginian; nor that the most memorable character in Robert Service’s Alaska poems was from Tennessee; nor that John Wayne’s best Western movie, The Searchers, begins in 1865 with the hero riding up to his prairie home in tattered gray.

But the Southernness of the American West is not just in the realm of romance. The romance in this case merely reflects the facts. Boone, Crockett, Lewis and Clark, the heroes of the Alamo, Kit Carson, Jim Bridger, Jesse James, nearly all the epic heroes of the frontier were Southerners. The “cowboy humorist” Will Rogers was the son of a captain in the Confederacy’s Cherokee brigade. You will hear nothing except Southern accents today on America’s only remaining frontier, the North
Shore oil fields.

We repeat: The West is only Western because it is Southern, because it bears the impress of the culture of the Old South rather than the Old North. That is why Oklahoma produces cowboys, oil wildcatters, country music singers, writers and scholars, evangelists and outlaws, and Kansas produces wheat and an occasional communist."

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Texas is Texas. It's nothing like the south.

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I've been trying to tell this man for like 3 pages now

Welp, if Virginia isn't the South, then I will concur that Texas isn't the South. I laugh at whoever groups the South in this way though. Apparently in 50 years there will be no more South. I wonder what you guys will call it.

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Apparently in 50 years there will be no more South. I wonder what you guys will call it.

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New Afrika. I'll be in Idaho if I'm still alive

Go to east Texas. Same thing.

Texas > the South > other parts

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Leave it to a guy who lives in the Northwest and a guy who lives in a suburb that was open fields 10 years ago to tell me what Texas is.

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I haven't commented on Texas but nice try.

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The frick is wrong with y’all talking about Arizona? It’s like Beetlejuice, say “Arizona” three times and nurse will show up and talk about how happy she is that Scottsdale isn’t the “South” because anything associated with Baton Rouge is shitty.

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And how she constantly reminds her parents that hooking up the trailer and moving it to her trailer park in Arizona was the best decision they ever made.

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Go to east Texas. Same thing.

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East Texas is just main Street cities devoid of any culture.