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re: Where can you sign the St. George petition?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 7:15 pm to TigerBait1127
Posted on 4/24/14 at 7:15 pm to TigerBait1127
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Comparing it to major cities is laughable though. Even Atlanta is better
I don't understand why folks compare BR to major cities. Proponents and haters both.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 7:17 pm to Scruffy
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Scruffy never said he hated the revitalization of downtown BR. It's existence doesn't negate the fact that the rest of BR is a dump that won't be improving any time soon.
Wasn't calling you out in particular, Scruffy.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 7:17 pm to LSURussian
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77% white.
That's close to the overall US percentage. I don't see the problem.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 7:36 pm to Antonio Moss
In 2010:
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U.S. population
Americans .................................................308,745,538 ...100.0 %
White American......................................... 223,553,265... 72.4 %
African American....................................... 38,929,319..... 12.6 %
Asian American .........................................14,674,252 ......4.8 %
Native Americans or Alaska Native........... 2,932,248....... 0.9 %
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander.. 540,013 ..........0.2 %
Some other race........................................ 19,107,368 .....6.2 %
Two or more races...................................... 9,009,073...... 2.9 %
Posted on 4/24/14 at 7:45 pm to ell_13
I work in EBR school system, its a nightmare
Posted on 4/24/14 at 7:46 pm to ell_13
I'll be moving from Prairieville into Baton Rouge within the next year. I haven't paid much attention to the st George fight and now that I will be in that area I want to get some independent info on what's going on. Is there a resource that I use that isn't biased one way or the other?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:04 pm to nino2469
I'll be moving from Prairieville into Baton Rouge within the next year. I haven't paid much attention to the st George fight and now that I will be in that area I want to get some independent info on what's going on. Is there a resource that I use that isn't biased one way or the other?
LINK
LINK
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:04 pm to Antonio Moss
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That's close to the overall US percentage. I don't see the problem.
Did I or anyone else say it was a problem, Tony? Another poster wrote people would be surprised at the amount of African Americans who live in St George after mentioning the Gardere area would be in SG.
I merely supplied the recent demographic ratio of whites who live in SG. Why would you think anyone considers it to be a problem?
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:06 pm to LSURussian
Seems to me everyone in BR wants better schools. Pulling the whole city into the fight and working together is better than the st g approach.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:26 pm to seeinspots
That hasn't worked so far, so why would it be any different in the future?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:27 pm to The Boat
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I did. You have to sign up for their email list. I wish they listed them there. I don't want some cocoa puff emailing me.
They are at corner of Siegen and N. Oak Hills Pkwy as well.
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:23 pm to seeinspots
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Seems to me everyone in BR wants better schools. Pulling the whole city into the fight and working together is better than the st g approach.
Better schools contain better kids. Better kids are made when parents do their job of preparing, disciplining and setting expectations for their kids before shuffling them off to the bus stop.
I don't know how I feel about SG incorporation, but I understand the frustration of being tethered to communities that don't seem to want to do the parenting work necessary to have good schools.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:32 pm to seeinspots
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Seems to me everyone in BR wants better schools. Pulling the whole city into the fight and working together is better than the st g approach.
Nobody likes to hear it but the only way you'll get better public schools is to find a way to keep the poor kids out. This isn't saying all poor kids are bad students, but it's pretty obvious the more kids from poverty in a school the worse off it's gonna be. Unless you can find a way to give those kids some sort of outside motivation to give a shite at all in schol (i.e. a parent who gives a frick), then nothing will change.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:55 pm to Boats n Hose
Does "kids from poverty" mean "black kids"?
Posted on 4/25/14 at 5:43 am to Boats n Hose
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the only way youll get better public schools is to keep the poor kids out
Seriously! So will st g peeps work even harder now to incorporate only those areas deemed not poor? WTF? Greed and racism brought to top like a pimple.
St g peeps aren't the only ones who care. Even poor people care about education. I assume you meant the blacks when you said poor. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 6:52 am to theunknownknight
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I don't really care about SG one way or another
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If the SG thing doesn't happen, I expect to see more people leaving BR.
ETA - including myself
Posted on 4/25/14 at 7:06 am to Boats n Hose
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Nobody likes to hear it but the only way you'll get better public schools is to find a way to keep the poor kids out.
I'm not sure this is entirely true. My wife taught at a school in a relatively affluent neighborhood and a lot of her kids sucked as students because either a.) both parents were too busy working 70 hours a week in order to keep up with the Jones' or b.) both parents were too busy spoiling their kids and installing an entitlement mentality in them.
So you still get motivation problems and discipline issues in affluent schools. Not the same kind and probably not as many, but they're not perfect either. It all comes back to parenting IMO.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 7:09 am to seeinspots
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Seems to me everyone in BR wants better schools. Pulling the whole city into the fight and working together is better than the st g approach.
It wasn't until the threat of incorporation loomed that we started to get proposals to reform the entire school system. Politicians will keep the status quo until absolutely forced into action.
That said, what exactly is the benefit of "working together" for people in the St. George area?
Posted on 4/25/14 at 7:17 am to Antonio Moss
Really? The fight has just begun? Much has changed in the 17 years ive been here. And for the better. Schools have improved. What st g peeps want is better schools, like everyone else, but they also want the tax base that our entire city supports. They want the whole cake and to eat it.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 7:25 am to seeinspots
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Really? The fight has just begun? Much has changed in the 17 years ive been here. And for the better. Schools have improved.
The public schools in EBR have improved since 1997? Do you have some objective evidence to back that statement up?
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What st g peeps want is better schools, like everyone else, but they also want the tax base that our entire city supports. They want the whole cake and to eat it
SG is asking for tax revenue generated inside city limits? I don't think that's correct at all.
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