re: When will hospitals stop being so anal about covid?

That is total bullsh**! Do some research. All deaths are reviewed by doctors, coroners and/or medical examiners.

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Again, how widespread do you think this was?

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Again, documented evidence that it happened. And you say people are morons that believe it.

Actually I do have a number for you. Every covid case you, a proven liar, were involved with +1 for the motorcycle covid death. Let’s start there.

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Lol, you dumb shithead, given that the vast majority of how most COVID deaths played out, it is directly relevan

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You can keep claiming it is all you want. It never will be.

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You keep thinking that 'motorcycle deaths' were labeled as COVID

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I know that motorcycle death was labeled as covid. The county health official admitted it and defended the decision.

You keep denying it happened and claiming only morons think it did.

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as though literally every death had some other obvious pathology as the cause of death.

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And you act as though literally no other death had some other obvious pathology as the cause of death.

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I have to trust my experience over yours here, because you haven't offered any evidence.

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Your experience is selling out to the government that you’ve allowed yourself to become beholden to. Congratulations

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Lol, no because I know you can't make that argument

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And yet you keep attempting to make it happen because you have literally nothing else.

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Nah. I didn't get any briefing on how much the hospital earned. I didn't give a shite then and don't give a shite now. I experienced what I experienced.

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Literally no one believes you.

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Well usually people have evidence from which they base an argument. You haven't provided any, but have assured me it exists.

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Literally none of this addresses the fact that you’re claiming not knowing how something happens means I can’t know that it did happen. And you undoubtedly still don’t understand how profoundly stupid this is.

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I'm just telling you this notion flies in the face of my experience.

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Your experience is biased, full of lies, and meaningless.

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Okay how else?

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So to confirm, “medical professional”. You are saying that if someone dies that has tested positive for covid, trauma is the only cause that would completely rule out covid, right?

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Nice

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Hiding behind an autocorrect because you’re too afraid to address the topic. “Nice”

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Oh. You know they lie. Cool.

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Yes, yes I do.

- 4% death rate initially
- masks reduce transmission
- masks don’t protect you, they protect others
- vaccines are safe and effective
- if you’re vaccinated you won’t get covid
- if you’re vaccinated you won’t transmit covid
- covid caused a motorcycle crash
- winter of death for the unvaccinated
- covid coming for children like a burglar in the night

Go ahead and defend each of these, “medical professional”

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Holy shite. You really are retarded aren't you?

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Holy shite, you really are mad that you got caught disproving you’re own argument again, aren’t you?

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No, because the phrase 'subclinical' in this context is incredibly stupid. Do you understand why? Think for just a second. Malone says this, that many people had subclinical myocarditis. What is the definition of subclinical? How is myocarditis diagnosed? If you know those two things, you know it is nonsensical.

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Since you quoted something from me but didn’t actually address any of it, I’ll just post it again.

“ Ah yes, we’re now at the point where you attempt to delegitimize infinitely more successful people than you that are able to offer thoughts that go against the narrative because they are no longer beholden to the government and medical establishment. Malone, the guy from Pfizer yesterday, etc. This isn’t pathetically transparent, not even a little bit.”

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It's always fun dealing with you retards in real life.

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A retard has gotten you to prove yourself wrong twice and caused you to resort to having to attempt to debate pathology to try to win this argument, among many other things. Imagine how bad this would be if you were talking to an intelligent person.

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You bitches always slink away with just a few pointed questions.

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I’m right here “medical professional”. Come back with more lies detailing how much of a sellout you are.

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When the money runs out.

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When do tax dollars run out?

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They'll never admit they were wrong.

So never.

Admitting COVID is inevitable for everyone. Won't ever go away. It would be admitting they were all wrong. The egos n healthcare, won't stand for it.

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Exactly

Healthcare professionals have been lying to everyone for years about COVID at this point

Why stop?

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Let's see it.

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Tell me more about how you don’t know about the Orlando motorcycle death being called a covid death, along with how you are definitely not biased in your covid assessments

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Oh wow. This must mean every death was like this.

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It means it happened. You swear it didn’t. You swear the with/of distinction is meaningless.

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Let's agree you don't understand pathology enough to make this determination.

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The statement is literally the inverse of your own statement. If me not understand pathology invalidates it, that makes your original statement invalid as well. Congratulations on proving yourself wrong again for the 3rd time.

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Reality is reality.

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You mean like the reality of “medical professionals” lying about covid? Because you claim that doesn’t happen.

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I have to put my experience before yours because you apparently believe every source that gives you the impression you want to believe

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Your experience is biased, full of lies, and meaningless.

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Great, still need evidence. Produce it or shut up.

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No, I don’t.

I have no idea how heart transplant surgery works. According to you, hats supposed to mean I don’t know it exists as a viable medical procedure when needed. And yet I do.

Explain how that’s possible.

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Nah, floors don't lie my man.

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The “medical professionals” working them do.

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You are the pathology expert apparently.

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I still am not and have never claimed to be, no matter how many times you fail at trying to get me to act as if I am.

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Put me on my arse. Tell me why I said trauma.

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What was it you were saying earlier about being too much of a bitch to answer pointed questions? I’ll bet you don’t get the irony here, “medical professional”

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I've written plenty on vaccines and the best way to roll them out and use them given particular molecular choice. I stand by everything I said.

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Yes, you’ve happily lied plenty about covid vaccines, their effectiveness, and the need of their widespread use. Why don’t you want to post any of those lies in this thread?

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Nah, you are just offering a really shitty argument.

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And by that of course you mean an argument you can’t muster any kind of response to.

Why don’t you want to talk about how I don’t have any real world experience with covid anymore, “medical professional”?

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Well Malone has no clinical experience at all. Subclinical is nonsensical, because how is myocarditis diagnosed? Malone is a researcher who last worked on mRNA vaccines in 1996. The guy from Pfizer yesterday never worked on vaccines, had a Ph.D. in Pharmacology, and doesn't understand anything about infectious disease. Their experience is relevant, but apparently they know so much about things outside their purview. It boggles the mind.

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So again, we’re at the point of you attempting to delegitimize people that are infinitely more successful than you.

Tell us about the clinical experience and how recent it was for Anthony fauci. You know, the guy that tells you what to think.

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Have I ever backed down from any one of you retards?

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You sure do seem afraid to answer lots of things in my post “medical professional”. Like trauma being the only cause of death that could completely rule out covid. And how I don’t have any real world experience with covid. And how “medical professionals” lie about covid. If that’s not backing down it definitely makes you a massive bitch at the very least.

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You seem obsessed with this one example.

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You are obsessed with trying to avoid that example because it thoroughly disproves your entire position.

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I admitted it happened and then I made several caveats

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Exactly. Several caveats that failed in attempting to paint the picture that “medical professionals” like you don’t lie about covid.

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Do I need to teach you how to read?

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That’s really rich coming from the guy that suspiciously forgets to respond to several parts of each post.

Did you talk about the covid lies of medical professionals in this one? I’m betting you didn’t.

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You really need to work on your English skills my man.

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It’s really easy for dishonest people to present something as poor English when they intentionally leave out the previous sentence being referred to in their reply.

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then your logic skills.

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You have thoroughly demonstrated you are typical science nerd that can study your medical textbook to appear intelligent but have no actual real world intelligence outside of your hospital. That’s why your covid takes just so happen to align perfectly with exactly what the government and medical establishment tell you to think, because you have no ability to think for yourself.

And “logic skills” are not something you should ever be claiming to have, as seen when you’ve argued against yourself 3 different times in this thread. It’s ok little guy, you have your place in society doing what your textbook and/or overlords tell you. It’s be nice if you weren’t such a hack about it, but whatever. Logic definitely isn’t your thing though.

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Floors don't lie my man. You don't understand what this means.

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This is you bitching out, again, instead of attempting to spin the lies told by “medical professionals”

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Yeah, you do.

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No, I don’t.

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But when it is indicated and when it isn't matters.

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And i have no idea when it is or isn’t.

Yet, I still no it exists. Something you claim I shouldn’t be able to do. So how is it possible that I do?

Remember what I said above about you keeping your head in your textbook and out of logic? This is it.

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You know they exist.

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Just like I know “medical professionals” lying about covid deaths exist, and the with/from of covid death has become important as a result.

Come back again with your “logic skills” little textbook boy.

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Nah, floors don't lie man. You can't fathom what that means.

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I can fathom that the “medical professionals” working the floors do lie.

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You will always be a bitch my little bitch.

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sure thing little textbook boy.

Why are you afraid to answer that trauma question from your “little bitch”?

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Nah, haven't lied once. Hit me with these posts where I've 'lied.'

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I don’t want to search for them. Post your vaccines thoughts again, they’ll be much easier to find. Or are you afraid to do that too?

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Nah, it's nonsense and has been nonsense throughout. Because one person's death was labeled as COVID positive means the entirety of all COVID deaths should be called into question?

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It’s not 1 person, and it’s not labeled. It’s the leading public health official in a county lying, at a press conference, about it. Yes, every single covid death in that county should absolutely be called into question.

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That's nonsensical and again is an argument about pathology, but you can't seem to connect the dots.

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And you fail again to try to make it about pathology when it very clearly isn’t.

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Well between Fauci and Malone, Fauci has far more experience.

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That’s not what I asked. Reading comprehension should be one of your strong suits little textbook boy.

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Secondly, the phrase subclinical myocarditis is insanely stupid, because if it is subclinical, then it cannot be myocarditis, by definition. The gold standard of myocarditis diagnosis is biopsy. The out 'subclinical' gives Malone a pass to morons who don't know what words mean, but it was stupid and will always be stupid. Thirdly, you keep returning to this 'argument from authority' as though it gives you an out. It doesn't because the content of their argument still matters. When the Pfizer guy makes basic mistakes about immunology, I have to discount what he says, despite his credentials.

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Mmhmm. And on this website you’ve argued the vaccine is safe and effective. And in this thread you’ve said trauma is the only time death definitely wasn’t caused by covid. Your thoughts are all completely invalid.

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My own credentials are more relevant than that guy's, but that doesn't seem to matter.

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Little textbook boy is more important than former chief scientific advisor at Pfizer

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Think carefully about why I said this. For once in your life.

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Nah, I’ll just wait for you to bitch out and not answer again instead.

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You don't

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And you still don’t understand how that would have to men covid is nowhere near as bad you “medical professionals” kept trying to tell us it is.

Keep flaunting those “logic skills”

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You seem to really take the 'people at the top' at their word about what they first said and seem injured by that. That's a super weird position, to be frank. Why did you believe them in the first place? Didn't you know about Fauci's history?

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Wanna know the really funny part? I haven’t said a single thing about believing Malone or the Pfizer guy. I’ll let you figure out what that means.