re: When will hospitals stop being so anal about covid?

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Because this is not a meaningful distinction for any patient I've encountered.

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And you get upset when people rightfully question your legitimacy and capacity as a “medical professional”

Nah, you can question all you want. But given the quality of the replies, it's very obvious that most don't understand anything about pathology. Most don't even know how to structure an argument about pathology correctly.

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Structuring an argument about pathology isn’t necessary to point out the fact you, a “medical professional”, either don’t understand the difference or completely disregard the difference between dying with and dying from.

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Again, you are making an argument directly about pathology here and you can't seem to understand that. Because outside of cases where a person died from trauma and tested positive for COVID, which had to have happened in an absolutely minority of cases, making this 'with/from' distinction requires actual pathologic evidence. How is it you can't seem to understand that? It's impressive that you think you are being profound while spouting the most retarded shite.

As long as it takes.

-Biden

To these people stupidity is a virtue. It's their shield against the real world.

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1. No it doesn’t. There are other serious medical conditions, most of them far more severe than covid, that existed and made people terminally ill prior to covid. The fact that you, a “medical professional”, would try to craft an argument otherwise by saying trauma is the only situation where that isn’t true is completely insane.

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Give me an absolute number then. I'm the pathologist doing the autopsy. How do I make that distinction?

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2. According to your own regarded argument, every single person that died while having covid would require a full autopsy to determine the pathologic cause of death. Are you going to sit here and tell us every single one of the million+ “covid deaths” in the US have had a full autopsy to correctly identify cause of death from a pathology standpoint? Please tell us you are that stupid, “medical professional”. Because otherwise you’ve just proven yourself wrong with your own argument.

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That's the argument you shitheads are making. You don't make this argument for literally any other disease either. Does someone with an ischemic stroke due to uncontrolled hypertension die with or from hypertension? We had one patient who had S3 lung cancer, active Tuberculosis and had COVID. He was resuscitated 3 times and the patient's family refused any palliative care. He died despite extensive efforts. What did he die from? Be specific for once. I could provide a laundry list of cases like these, because this 'with/from' distinction is only meaningful if you get your information from the most retarded of sources. It makes no sense from any pathologic or clinical perspective.

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I know I’m not being profound. I’m just stating the obvious instead of automatically believing your bullshite just because you purport yourself as a “medical professional”. And you have yourself and plenty of other people just like you in that field to thank for that, given your complete inability and refusal to be truthful about a respiratory virus and everything else surrounding it for more than 3 years now.

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COVID isn't strictly a respiratory virus. It is a systemic illness by virtue of its own pathophysiology. There are far fewer infectious diseases that are limited to one system than you think. I don't know why you think this is a meaningful point. And you can go on floors with me anytime and see for yourself. I suspect in any case you'll run back to any source that tells you what you want to hear though.

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Give me an absolute number then

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I don’t have a number, nor do I have to give one. When you have public health officials saying a motorcycle death should count as covid death because ‘covid could’ve made him crash’ my point is already proven.

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I'm the pathologist doing the autopsy. How do I make that distinction?

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How about starting with not being a hack that is only concerned with finding whatever the government is paying you and your professional associations are pressuring you to find?

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That's the argument you shitheads are making.

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No, that’s your argument “medical professional”. Us shitheads know that someone that tests positive for a respiratory virus isn’t automatically counted as a respiratory virus death when he dies of a heart attack 2 weeks later. That wasn’t even considered as a possibility until you and your fellow “medical professionals” started doing it 3 years ago.

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You don't make this argument for literally any other disease either.

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See above. It wasn’t a necessary argument to make until you and your fellow medical hacks made it so.

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We had one patient who had S3 lung cancer, active Tuberculosis and had COVID. He was resuscitated 3 times and the patient's family refused any palliative care. He died despite extensive efforts. What did he die from?

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I don’t know what he died from. I would bet my life you allowed him to be counted in that million+ number though.

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I could provide a laundry list of cases like these, because this 'with/from' distinction is only meaningful if you get your information from the most retarded of sources. It makes no sense from any pathologic or clinical perspective.

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Wrong again “medical professional”. The with/from distinction became important the second death numbers and disease severity started being used to disrupt society and destroy people’s lives. A problem that wouldn’t have been possible without the willful complicity of “medical professionals” like you lying all the time.

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And you can go on floors with me anytime and see for yourself.

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Are you telling me if I go in a hospital I’ll see sick people? No fricking way guy, talk about staring something profound.

I can also live in the real world everyday and see plenty of people “infected” with covid that don’t even know they have it. And many more that recover perfectly normally just like they would from every other respiratory virus.

But most of all, I can see that the vaccine, masks, lockdowns, and every other measure that was and is implemented based on the recommendations and support of “medical professionals” like you has done absolutely nothing to prevent the spread of covid. They have ruined untold numbers of lives though.

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I suspect in any case you'll run back to any source that tells you what you want to hear though.

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And I know that no amount of real world evidence will get you to do the right thing instead of the things that benefit you professionally and/or financially, “medical professional”

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I don’t have a number, nor do I have to give one. When you have public health officials saying a motorcycle death should count as covid death because ‘covid could’ve made him crash’ my point is already proven.

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Lol. How many do you think were from this case? Give me a hard number. Because otherwise, you are just another moron who wants to believe what they want to believe.

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How about starting with not being a hack that is only concerned with finding whatever the government is paying you and your professional associations are pressuring you to find?

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Again, you dumb shithead. You are making an argument about pathological distinctions but don't want to talk about pathology. What should I look for on autopsy to make this distinction?

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No, that’s your argument “medical professional”. Us shitheads know that someone that tests positive for a respiratory virus isn’t automatically counted as a respiratory virus death when he dies of a heart attack 2 weeks later. That wasn’t even considered as a possibility until you and your fellow “medical professionals” started doing it 3 years ago.

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Again, how common is this? Give me a number. You keep making incredibly stupid points and you don't seem to understand why.

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See above. It wasn’t a necessary argument to make until you and your fellow medical hacks made it so.

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It's not a necessary argument to make because it is unbelievably retarded. It's so stupid that I'm not surprised to see you double down on it and return to your same screeching talking points.

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I don’t know what he died from. I would bet my life you allowed him to be counted in that million+ number though.

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Lol. You don't know but somehow you are sure that this 'with/from' distinction is meaningful. Brilliant.

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Wrong again “medical professional”. The with/from distinction became important the second death numbers and disease severity started being used to disrupt society and destroy people’s lives. A problem that wouldn’t have been possible without the willful complicity of “medical professionals” like you lying all the time.

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Lol. I haven't lied at any point. Again, you seem like you are an expert at this with/from distinction. Tell me what I should look out for. A patient with a history of COPD comes in with COVID. He codes. What killed him?

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And I know that no amount of real world evidence will get you to do the right thing instead of the things that benefit you professionally and/or financially, “medical professional”

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You don't have any real world evidence. Just the same retarded sources who appear to have never treated any disease clinically. Like that moron Malone who talks about 'subclinical myocarditis,' which is an incredibly stupid phrase. But you dumb shits eat that up despite it being nonsensical.

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Lol. How many do you think were from this case? Give me a hard number.

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You can keep asking an already answered question, you’ll keep getting the answer.

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Because otherwise, you are just another moron who wants to believe what they want to believe.

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Literal documented evidence of “medical professionals” lying about covid deaths and only morons think that is happening.

As I said originally, you wonder why people question your legitimacy and capacity

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Again, you dumb shithead. You are making an argument about pathological distinctions but don't want to talk about pathology. What should I look for on autopsy to make this distinction?

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Again, “medical professional”. Being able to make a pathological argument isn’t necessary to accurately point out “medical professionals” like you classified deaths as covid deaths that either explicitly were not or you did not know were.

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You keep making incredibly stupid points and you don't seem to understand why.

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You mean you’re mad that you can’t get me to try to engage in a debate about pathology because that’s the only avenue you think can save you in this argument that you e already lost.

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It's not a necessary argument to make because it is unbelievably retarded. It's so stupid that I'm not surprised to see you double down on it and return to your same screeching talking points.

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“I, along with other hands in my profession, knowingly classified deaths as covid deaths because the government paid more when I did it. This greatly overinflated the actual covid death numbers, which were used as justification to institute draconian but ineffective prevention policies that ruined countless lives. I have no defense of this when other people point it out, so I’ll just call them stupid instead. I am a “medical professional” after all.”

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Lol. You don't know but somehow you are sure that this 'with/from' distinction is meaningful

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Your premise is that not knowing how something happens precludes me from knowing that it did happen. I would go into how incredibly stupid that thought process is, but you aren’t intelligent enough to understand why and I doubt the government has told you what to think about that topic.

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Lol. I haven't lied at any point.

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Tell us again how trauma is the only exception to knowing someone didn’t die from covid.

Tell us about the vaccines be their effectiveness.

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Again, you seem like you are an expert at this with/from distinction. Tell me what I should look out for. A patient with a history of COPD comes in with COVID. He codes. What killed him?

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Again, this is you attempting to engage in a debate about pathology because that’s the only avenue you think can save you in this argument that youve already lost. I don’t have to know anything about pathology(and I don’t claim to) to know that “medical professionals” lie about all things covid related.

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You don't have any real world evidence

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Think about the significance of this statement, “medical professional”. For covid to be by where near as bad as you and your fellow hacks want us to believe it is, that must mean it is literally everywhere, that everyone has been exposed to it, and everyone must know people that have been affected by it. That all constitutes real world evidence.

For you to now claim I do t have any real world evidence would have to mean covid is nowhere near as bad as you are trying so very hard to make us believe.

Good job of proving yourself wrong again, “medical professional”

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Just the same retarded sources who appear to have never treated any disease clinically. Like that moron Malone who talks about 'subclinical myocarditis,' which is an incredibly stupid phrase.

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Ah yes, we’re now at the point where you attempt to delegitimize infinitely more successful people than you that are able to offer thoughts that go against the narrative because they are no longer beholden to the government and medical establishment. Malone, the guy from Pfizer yesterday, etc. This isn’t pathetically transparent, not even a little bit.

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But you dumb shits eat that up despite it being nonsensical.

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I haven’t mentioned a single word about any of those things. Your inferiority complex is fun to watch though.