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re: when have you been friend-zoned?
Posted on 5/17/14 at 6:25 pm to wildtigercat93
Posted on 5/17/14 at 6:25 pm to wildtigercat93
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You're friend zoned right after you go on a date with her and you don't make a move
Mmmm I don't know about that. If she likes you and you fail to make the first move for whatever reason I think they usually will give you another date. They usually will chalk it up to something they did wrong rather than you.
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Posted on 5/17/14 at 6:26 pm to Goldrush25
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If she likes you and you fail to make the first move for whatever reason I think they usually will give you another date.
if she's dtf and you don't make a move she'll lose her mind wondering what she did wrong and you're goddamn right you'll get a 2nd date
Posted on 5/17/14 at 6:28 pm to MunichBengal
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Yah never buy food for a chick you haven't had sex with.
Yup! I am gonna give you guys the 480 first date special free of charge even though I should be making the betas in here pay 3 monthly payments of $99.95 for it!
What you want to do is invite her to dinner at a super fancy resturant and then the day of the dinner tell her you have some super important clients coming in town last minute to close a big business deal and you need to take them out to dinner BUT you still want to go out and celebrate with her over drinks. Then you show up and tell her about how well the deal was and insist she celebrates with you by taking shots! By doing this you don't have to buy an expensive dinner but she still thinks you were willing to, you show her you are an important person who gets things done and most importantly you will have her hammered from celebrating with you and you only had to buy drinks. If you can't close after that I don't know what to tell you!
Posted on 5/17/14 at 6:31 pm to Goldrush25
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Mmmm I don't know about that. If she likes you and you fail to make the first move for whatever reason I think they usually will give you another date. They usually will chalk it up to something they did wrong rather than you.
Couldn't disagree more. It's pretty well established that the #1 turn on for girls is a confident guy. You should never fail to make out with a girl at the end of ANY date, let alone a good one.
If you don't make out with a girl at the end of a good date she will think that you are a pussy with zero confidence.
If you try to make out with a girl at the end of a mediocre date or a date that you didn't click on, but you would still like to frick her if you had the option, you go for the makeout. I think you'll be surprised by how many times she'll accept the kiss because she'll be like "wow what the hell?"
This post was edited on 5/17/14 at 6:34 pm
Posted on 5/17/14 at 6:32 pm to MunichBengal
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If you don't make out with a girl at the end of a good date you are a pussy with zero confidence. No excuse possible at all.
ignoring a girl who likes you is more powerful than just being confident. not only do they constantly think about you (all the positive reasons why they like you), but they desire to prove their self worth to you, also
Posted on 5/17/14 at 6:33 pm to Cosmo
quote:you know a few months back i wouldve said youre lying.
naw, even those will usually give up at least 2nd base if they are into you.
not anymore
Posted on 5/17/14 at 6:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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ignoring a girl who likes you is more powerful than just being confident. not only do they constantly think about you (all the positive reasons why they like you), but they desire to prove their self worth to you, also
That makes no sense. Why would you be on a date with a girl you don't like? The "playing coy" ship has long sailed if you're on a DATE with her, man.
Posted on 5/17/14 at 6:35 pm to MunichBengal
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Why would you be on a date with a girl you don't like?
wut
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The "playing coy" ship has long sailed if you're on a DATE with her, man.
wut
Posted on 5/17/14 at 6:35 pm to lsu480
This is a good strategy. Also allows you to wear a suit on your date which is a great move. I also know that 99% of guys would reject this idea immediately because "it's douchey", which is a shame.
There's a reason that 10% of the guys get 90% of the sex. Most of the time these 10% are considered "douchey" by the other 90% of guys.
There's a reason that 10% of the guys get 90% of the sex. Most of the time these 10% are considered "douchey" by the other 90% of guys.
This post was edited on 5/17/14 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 5/17/14 at 6:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
Dude, you're saying that it's a good strategy to not make out with a girl after a successful first date because you think that she'll obsess over you and what she did wrong?
No offense, but that is like something that I would have tried when I was in 9th grade.
Good link.
No offense, but that is like something that I would have tried when I was in 9th grade.
Good link.
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I cannot stress how important it is to kiss her by the end of the first date. Except for one exception, a virgin, every girl I have ever had sex with was kissed by that time. If we are aiming for sex by date three, a very reasonable goal, we need to get the first kiss done quickly. Otherwise it will take much longer to get there and you will enter the very dangerous territory of committing to a girl who is probably getting what she wants (attention, validation) at your expense. Kissing a girl by the first date is such a huge and reliable predictor of upcoming sex that I don’t bother calling girls who resist it. With so many girls out there who are comfortable with intimacy, it’d be a waste of your time to go down the rabbit hole of a relationship with a girl who is going to blue ball you. You need to know how a girl is in bed before you decide to make a real investment in her, and it would be a large waste of your resources to wait until date eight or so to find out that she is a dead fish. Don’t buy the juice before you get a squeeze.
This post was edited on 5/17/14 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 5/17/14 at 7:00 pm to wildtigercat93
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but your also in that unknown territory where you can be labeled a creep by any false step. Grabbing tit could easily be over that line
You will only be labeled a creep if she is not attracted to you. Then you will know where you stand.
Posted on 5/17/14 at 7:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
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ignoring a girl who likes you is more powerful than just being confident. not only do they constantly think about you (all the positive reasons why they like you), but they desire to prove their self worth to you, also
I'm starting to understand your friend zone problems.
Posted on 5/17/14 at 7:52 pm to LT
Yeah that's pretty naive stuff from our mate SFP. Women just aren't wired that way - if you're not making them wet they'll find somebody who does.
Posted on 5/17/14 at 8:06 pm to MunichBengal
damn. I started this thread and am just now checking back in.
Posted on 5/17/14 at 8:06 pm to abellsujr
September, '08
Posted on 5/17/14 at 8:19 pm to MunichBengal
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This is a good strategy. Also allows you to wear a suit on your date which is a great move. I also know that 99% of guys would reject this idea immediately because "it's douchey", which is a shame.
There's a reason that 10% of the guys get 90% of the sex. Most of the time these 10% are considered "douchey" by the other 90% of guys.
There is some truth in there!
Posted on 5/17/14 at 8:23 pm to MunichBengal
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If you don't make out with a girl at the end of a good date she will think that you are a pussy with zero confidence
I don't agree with that. Most women are neurotic enough to think that something is wrong with themselves if you don't make a move, and they'll give you another date. That's assuming she likes you in the first place though.
There are millions of guys that wait until the second date and then make their move, and have great relationships. It is not as cut and dry as you try to put it.
This post was edited on 5/17/14 at 8:24 pm
Posted on 5/17/14 at 9:17 pm to wildtigercat93
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You're friend zoned right after you go on a date with her and you don't make
This is a great answer OP. It took me 2 chicks before I realized it. Since then, never had a problem.
Posted on 5/17/14 at 9:20 pm to Goldrush25
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Most women are neurotic enough to think that something is wrong with themselves if you don't make a move, and they'll give you another date. That's assuming she likes you in the first place though.
key assumption is in bold. she has to want to frick you
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