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re: When did you first become aware of your privilege?

Posted on 8/5/20 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 5:53 pm to
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Learned to appreciate the hard work and struggles his ancestors endured to make something out of nothing in this country?


That's generally what SJWs consider privilege. If you're successful, you're privileged. Its commie horseshite to make the soys feel better about themselves.

There are literally millions of combinations that decide success. Way too many to generalize under one term.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 5:55 pm to
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There are literally millions of combinations that decide success. Way too many to generalize under one term.


Once again something I’ve said multiple times in this very thread.
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 5:58 pm to
So what is the summary of my thread?

I say a Mage can't wear Heavy Armor and a Warrior doesn't have the mana to cast. But each can handle their own if they learn how to use their natural attributes and mitigate the hazards of their respective classes.

Should we nerf Warriors and make them wear cloth, and sap mana from mages to make each equal? Basically hurting both for the sake of equal outcomes?
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 6:04 pm to
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Privilege, education, hard work, good fortune, connections, etc. You need more than one of these to be successful. Not having one doesn’t preclude you from being successful and having all of them doesn’t guarantee success.


Yeah I think most would find this reasonable, but my point is that your concept of privilege itself can be broken into a pie of countless pieces, each piece representing whatever factor of your being endears you to society. This could be how you dress, your skin coloration, your religion, your tattoos, etc.
“Society” in this context is also not homogenous. These things might change in how they are perceived based on location and what your particular social circle is.

And usually people tend to focus on only one variable, which is a drastic oversimplification. But even when they don’t, these are whole lot of words to state the obvious that some people have a harder time than others in life. I struggle to find where this dialogue is productive or useful.

Seems like if someone has misfortune, it is a more productive exercise to analyze specific factors that led to the misfortune instead of pigeonholing him into a macroscopic box and saying that a lack of privilege for whichever particular box we are placing the individual in is a primary reason why. I think this would be psychologically troublesome and likely to lead to fatalism, and all for a premise that I believe is mightily flawed.
This post was edited on 8/5/20 at 6:10 pm
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 6:06 pm to
Is being a "success" equally measured?

If one person has a degree and a $50k job, he is a success, a role model, someone parents want their daughter to meet.

Another person with just an undergraduate degree and a measly $50k job, is a mid-level failure with no ambition.


They each want to buy a house.

One has to spend 200k to buy a house with his peers, the other has only to spend $100k. The failure has to pay double the mortgage that the success story has to pay.

Should this be factored in to the respective struggles?
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
69094 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 6:13 pm to
What bullshite is this
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171903 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 6:16 pm to
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Seems like if someone has misfortune, it is a more productive exercise to analyze specific factors that led to the misfortune instead of pigeonholing him into a macroscopic box and saying that a lack of privilege for whichever particular box we are placing the individual in is a primary reason why.


I agree and that isn’t my intent no matter how hard roger and others try to say it is.

There are a ton of different variables that go into having a successful life. Deficiencies in certain areas can be overcome by others to a certain degree so you can’t blame your failures on one specific variable.

There are certain “combinations” that you can look at and be able to predict success at a good rate, but nothing is absolute.
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