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What's the Engineering Solution to NOLA Pumping?

Posted on 8/11/17 at 5:25 am
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 5:25 am
Forget about the politics and finger pointing for a moment.

If you were project engineer with a reasonable budget (and your own hand picked staff), what would you do?
This post was edited on 8/11/17 at 5:27 am
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
2748 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 5:26 am to
Fix the broken pumps. Profit.
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 5:30 am to
reddit link to pdf

looks to be a request from 2011 to fix the power plant for the pumps. I guess Mitch scrapped it.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 5:32 am to
What was the rfq for? Replacing/repairing what they already had or building new shite?
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 5:32 am to
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Placebeaux


Saw that. Interesting. Looks like it would increase the power of the turbines that generate the electricity refit some of them. Would that solve the problem?
Posted by Drew Orleans
Member since Mar 2010
21577 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 5:33 am to
Venice
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 5:39 am to
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What was the rfq for? Replacing/repairing what they already had or building new shite?


Posted by baseballmind1212
Missouri City
Member since Feb 2011
3259 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 5:42 am to
Perform routine maintenance and not buy pumps from a politically active (and only) vendor in the area. Oh, and find people who actually have the knowledge and background to ensure said pumps and turbines we're in working order.

Pretty common sense to me.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 5:43 am to
Yea ok Mitch probably laughed when he saw the bids for that job

Just putting in a 15MW turbine was probably a big enough bill to make him round file them all.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 5:44 am to
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Perform routine maintenance and not buy pumps from a politically active (and only) vendor in the area. Oh, and find people who actually have the knowledge and background to ensure said pumps and turbines we're in working order.


Ok. So it's operational problems, not a design flaw? Not arguing with you, just trying to really understand what the problem is.

I get that moving tons of water in a short time isn't easy. But it seems to me that the laws of mechanics and hydraulics have not changed much in a hundred years. I'd think they would have it figured out.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 5:46 am to
Looks like that budget was going to be $141,175,000.

Did NOLA get the money and not use it? Or did the FEMA money for this one not come through?
Posted by MBclass83
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
9364 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 5:46 am to
Close all exits on Baton Rouge interstates and fill hole with dirt.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 5:47 am to
Find another job where I'm not expected to pump out the equivalent of a swimming pool with a few water guns.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 5:50 am to
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Close all exits on . . . interstates


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MBclass83
Baton Rouge


This checks out.

Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 5:51 am to
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Find another job where I'm not expected to pump out the equivalent of a swimming pool with a few water guns.


This is legit what I am trying to figure out. Is it undercapacity in the system, or some other design problem? Or is it just impossible?
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 6:07 am to
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Did NOLA get the money and not use it? Or did the FEMA money for this one not come through?


A lot of that money was........missing. Maybe Ray Nagin knows.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27105 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 6:09 am to
The problem isn't just with the pumps. It's with everything. You have to minimize reliance on pumps, which means you have to slow/stop subsidence, which means you have to accept a new stormwater paradigm that radically changes the urban design of the city. It isn't just an engineering problem. It's a societal acceptance problem too.

GNO Urban Water Plan
This post was edited on 8/11/17 at 6:10 am
Posted by Engineer
Member since Dec 2015
277 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 6:25 am to
Turn the sun down a bit to stop the global warming causing this.
Posted by GeauxWrek
Somewhere b/w Houston and BR
Member since Sep 2010
4293 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 6:29 am to
Need remove more statues first
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 6:31 am to
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Close all exits on Baton Rouge interstates and fill hole with water.


FIFY

Just let that cesspool fill up already
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