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re: What has had more impact on history: war, trade, or disease?
Posted on 6/29/15 at 3:13 pm to Feral
Posted on 6/29/15 at 3:13 pm to Feral
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War.
War, rebellion, and revolution are what shape nations and governments, and occupation and administration of conquered territories caused/causes population assimilation. War can either bolster economies (America in WWI) or collapse them (most of Europe after WWI), and it has led to myriad technological advancements. Throughout history, most leaders were military dictators, victors, or people whose views and outlook were shaped by war.
Without the American Revolution you don't get the United States. Without the Russian Revolution and resulting Civil War there's no Soviet Union. Both World Wars literally redrew the map of most of the globe.
And that's just within the last 250 years.
Very very great points sir.
To play the other side and push trade though, look at the American Revolution, some of the primary causes of the war were the taxes and other regulations the king was putting on colonists, making it difficult to trade.
Yes a lot of it was about having representation in government, but many of the acts forced on the colonies dealt with trade and goods.
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Posted on 6/29/15 at 3:24 pm to Ace Midnight
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Disease is probably fairly assessed as 100% bad, but other than the plague, how big of an impact has disease had on "the big picture"?
Smallpox wiping out 95% of Native Americans between 1500 and 1700 probably was pretty important.
Posted on 6/29/15 at 4:07 pm to Tiger1242
Religion.
Posted on 6/29/15 at 4:21 pm to brodeo
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Smallpox wiping out 95% of Native Americans between 1500 and 1700 probably was pretty important.
To the Early American settlers it was, but to the world today? I'm not so sure.
Even if the Natives hadn't died out in mass, I severely doubt they could've stopped the European settlement. It's not like the Native Americans were unified, they fought with themselves just as often as settlers.
I think things are generally the same smallpox or no
Posted on 6/29/15 at 5:55 pm to Tiger1242
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To the Early American settlers it was, but to the world today? I'm not so sure.
Even if the Natives hadn't died out in mass, I severely doubt they could've stopped the European settlement. It's not like the Native Americans were unified, they fought with themselves just as often as settlers.
I think things are generally the same smallpox or no
Well, it took a pretty Herculean effort at times to corral the starving, completely shattered 5% that remained. Now multiply that resistance by 20. It would have had a huge difference.
Posted on 6/29/15 at 6:52 pm to Ace Midnight
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other than the plague, how big of an impact has disease had on "the big picture"?
w/o disease killing off 90% of Native Americans, whitey prolly doesn't successfully settle or take over the Americas.
Posted on 6/29/15 at 8:22 pm to fleaux
Disease
Posted on 6/29/15 at 9:09 pm to Tiger1242
You could say trade caused war and disease
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