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What happens when someone has hit rock-bottom, but doesn't want to end it?

Posted on 3/11/23 at 9:18 pm
Posted by Mud_Bone
Member since Dec 2021
2141 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 9:18 pm

Trying to counsel someone to get help, but they just ignore me as ignorant and not understanding.

Person has definitely hit rock bottom and I do not want him to harm himself even though he has not threatened to do so.

Who do you call? Contact?
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89831 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 9:19 pm to
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What happens when someone has hit rock-bottom, but doesn't want to end it?


Then they haven’t hit rock bottom.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42348 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 9:20 pm to
Does he have a fentanyl dealer
Posted by BigFatPig
Member since Nov 2020
295 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 9:23 pm to
Tough one. If you think he MIGHT harm himself, don't leave his side.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
49082 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 9:24 pm to
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What happens when someone has hit rock-bottom

That's most people here.
Posted by BigFatPig
Member since Nov 2020
295 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 9:24 pm to
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Then they haven’t hit rock bottom.


Not true.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57445 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 9:25 pm to
You can’t force someone to be sober if they are not ready. Just let them know your there for when they need help and save yourself the time
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
16895 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 9:25 pm to
Your definition of rock bottom and their definition are much different
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
28117 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 9:25 pm to
Hasn’t hit rock bottom if they are still acting like that
Posted by BigFatPig
Member since Nov 2020
295 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 9:32 pm to
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You can’t force someone to be sober if they are not ready.


OP didn't mention addiction, even tho that could be the case.

Rock bottom can involve many other things than addiction, e.g. mental health issues, etc.


Posted by CHGAR
Haile, LA
Member since Aug 2022
563 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 9:45 pm to
Not rock bottom if they don't see it.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40391 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 9:47 pm to
I’ve done everything possible under the sun to “get help” and nothing helps.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6403 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 9:49 pm to
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but they just ignore me as ignorant and not understanding.


Absolutely tell them to get the divorce.
Posted by Highheat
Member since Aug 2021
62 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 10:37 pm to
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What happens when someone has hit rock-bottom, but doesn't want to end it?


A few things can happen at that point. If they truly don't want to off themselves and are at rock bottom, that's actually a good place to be. Change can happen because they are forced to do something different than what they have been. They are forced to take a look at themselves and start dealing with their issues. You can help them by speaking some truth and love into their life. Don't lie to them but be straight up about their situation and remind them that there are ways out. Even if they don't see them. It's also important they know you'll be there no matter what.

On the flip side, a self defeating, victim mentality can happen. They will stay in that mentality because they don't believe they can face their demons, or they believe others have created what has caused "rock bottom." If this is the case there is absolutely nothing you can do to help them other than pray and tell them that they have more control than they believe at the moment.
Posted by auzach91
Marietta, GA
Member since Jan 2009
40250 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 10:41 pm to
Sounds like they’re not at rock bottom. But 998 is always there if they are suicidal.
Posted by Btrtigerfan
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Member since Dec 2007
21363 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 10:41 pm to
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I’ve done everything possible under the sun to “get help” and nothing helps.




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