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re: What good reason is there to believe in God?
Posted on 3/18/25 at 10:46 am to bayoubengals88
Posted on 3/18/25 at 10:46 am to bayoubengals88
quote:Oh I agree it’s a good standard. It’s how we should live our lives.
How convenient for Him.
Thankfully for us, it's a good standard. Do you have others in mind? The woke agenda? The Enlightenment rationalists? Yours? The opposite political party of your choosing? The media?
God doesn't need your approval of his good standard. Only that you follow it for your own good.
I just believe that Big Religion’s God is a money-seeking crock.
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 10:47 am to TX Tiger
quote:I hope you know that we know we won't convince you of anything.
TX Tiger
Typically, your own curiosity will lead you to walk into a church, and from what I hear, if you walk into a good one then love will consume you.
I do hope this happens for you.
I'm struggling to understand how anyone can have true joy or meaning without God as their foundation or philosophy for every other venture.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 10:47 am to TX Tiger
quote:
You sound like a Trump supporter. Everything good in the world is Trump’s doing. And everything bad in the world is someone else’s fault. The same could be said for the Obamabots
Have a good day Tx. I wish you and your family well.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 10:49 am to StrongOffer
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The difference is the Branch Davidians were tricked. Jesus' apostles would have known without a shadow of a doubt they were lying to people saying Jesus rose from the dead. They traveled all over claiming to see him in the flesh after he died and were killed for it. Men don't give up their lives for a known lie.
The major difference between the BD’s and the disciples is that the BD’s didn’t find out Koresh was a fraud until they all got killed in Waco. The disciples grew more emboldened AFTER their leader had been killed. Major difference in timeline there.
Now, if David Koresh got all shot up and died and then rose again to preach more, I’d imagine he would’ve gained more long term traction.
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 10:56 am
Posted on 3/18/25 at 10:50 am to bayoubengals88
quote:The difference is, you don’t have the power to make them on your side. If you had that power, you would…if you truly wanted them on your side.
Do you have kids or a spouse? I want my kids and my wife to "be on my side" but I can't force them to be.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 10:56 am to TX Tiger
quote:What does this mean? I’m not sure that I would disagree.
just believe that Big Religion’s God is a money-seeking crock.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 10:58 am to bayoubengals88
quote:I already am consumed by love. I just don’t fall for every snake oil salesman that passes by. And IMO that’s exactly what Big Religion is.
Typically, your own curiosity will lead you to walk into a church, and from what I hear, if you walk into a good one then love will consume you.
I do hope this happens for you.
quote:I can enjoy my home without worshipping the builder.
I'm struggling to understand how anyone can have true joy or meaning without God as their foundation or philosophy for every other venture.
There obviously had to be a beginning to all of this somehow. I just don’t believe it was what Big Religion is selling.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 11:00 am to TX Tiger
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The difference is, you don’t have the power to make them on your side. If you had that power, you would…if you truly wanted them on your side.
I love my wife and I do not want a sex robot. I’m very glad that she willingly loves me.
Not sure what you’re getting at, but it’s a bad argument.
Lastly, I’m not opposed to believing in ultimate universal reconciliation. How’s that for love?!
Posted on 3/18/25 at 11:02 am to bayoubengals88
quote:I mean that the God that Big Religion expects us to follow and believe is nonsensical and exists for two reasons.
just believe that Big Religion’s God is a money-seeking crock.
What does this mean?
1. Money
2. Control
Posted on 3/18/25 at 11:10 am to bayoubengals88
quote:So God is a gambling man in your opinion? Why would he gamble human’s love when he doesn’t have to? Is God stupid?
The difference is, you don’t have the power to make them on your side. If you had that power, you would…if you truly wanted them on your side.
I love my wife and I do not want a sex robot. I’m very glad that she willingly loves me.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 11:16 am to JiminyCricket
quote:Same for you.
Have a good day Tx. I wish you and your family well.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 11:23 am to TX Tiger
quote:So why are you mad at God?! I can’t stomach most denominations myself!
I mean that the God that Big Religion expects us to follow and believe is nonsensical and exists for two reasons. 1. Money 2. Control
Posted on 3/18/25 at 11:43 am to TX Tiger
quote:I guess you should. Is it your opinion that the apostles died for a lie? Not the lie that Jesus rose from the dead; the lie that they themselves saw him in the flesh after he died.
Who’s going to tell him?
Posted on 3/18/25 at 11:52 am to bayoubengals88
quote:im not mad at God. I’m mad at Big Religion for creating a nonsensical God that we’re supposed to worship.
I mean that the God that Big Religion expects us to follow and believe is nonsensical and exists for two reasons. 1. Money 2. Control
So why are you mad at God?! I can’t stomach most denominations myself!
Posted on 3/18/25 at 12:12 pm to TX Tiger
quote:I'd argue that there are no more complicated ideas/thoughts/discussions with which to grapple.
I’m mad at Big Religion for creating a nonsensical God that we’re supposed to worship.
We have the Biblical corpus, and many have done their best to interpret it.
Ultimately, the basics are fairly straightforward.
- God created
- Any man or woman would have fricked it up. In fact, we all do. Daily.
- We experience the consequences of an unreconciled creation to its creator.
- We experience true beauty and enjoyment as we are thankful to witness and participate in momentary glimpses of reconcilation.
- One day, reconciliation will happen, possibly for all.
Ever wondered why nearly every book or movie has just about all of the same tropes and overarching plot line? Because that's how the world around us works. In other words, it's true.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 12:26 pm to bayoubengals88
quote:
2004 called. It wants your New Atheism back.
What does the year 2004 or New Atheism have to do with the number of planets in the Miky Way that scientist believe could sustain life?
Were you intending to respond to a different post?
I don't even know what "New Atheism" is.
I'm 64 years old and haven't believed in god since the concept was first introduced to me. I can remember thinking "this is bullshite" when I was only 9 years old. Of course, I did not know the word "bullshite" at that time, but whatever the 9-year-old equivalent of "bullshite" is, that is what I thought.
So please explain to me what "New Atheism" is. I must have missed that memo.
I'm atheist with a lower-case a. I don't care what any other atheist has to say. I believe what I believe. There is no god or any other supernatural being. It is not even a question that I ponder.
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 3/18/25 at 12:33 pm to VolSquatch
quote:
Even if there are billions of planets with life, how many are likely to be as advanced as we are? Probably not very many.
No argument from me. But none of us alive today will likely ever know.
Even if there were intelligent life somewhere else in the Milky Way, the distance between us is just too far.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 12:56 pm to StrongOffer
quote:
My point was none of the planets in our solar system show signs of life
So, you've examined all 40 billion planets in the Milky Way that might be able to sustain life and know that there are no "signs of life" on any of those 40 billion planets?
The difference between 500 and 40 billion is huge. You just pulled a number out of your arse.
Also, you didn't define was "signs of life" even means.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 1:15 pm to Stinger_1066
quote:NASA has observed around 5500 planets; no "biosignatures" - such as an element, isotope, molecule, or phenomenon – that provides scientific evidence of past or present life on a planet. Measurable attributes of life include its physical or chemical structures, its use of free energy, and the production of biomass and wastes.
So, you've examined all 40 billion planets in the Milky Way that might be able to sustain life
quote:I got it from this utah.edu
The difference between 500 and 40 billion is huge. You just pulled a number out of your arse.
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 3/18/25 at 1:19 pm to Stinger_1066
quote:You sound like these guys.
So please explain to me what "New Atheism" is. I must have missed that memo.
I'm sorry that you don't see the world as enchanted. Love ya!
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