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re: What are examples of “institutionalized racism” ?

Posted on 6/28/20 at 9:50 pm to
Posted by Buryl
Member since Sep 2016
980 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 9:50 pm to
The Ahmaud Arbery situation is one of the most blatant recent examples. Although elements other than race were likely in play as well.

If they were willing to cover a homicide, imagine all the small shite they covered over the years.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
65777 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 9:58 pm to
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I'm not saying that it's the case all the time or even most but I do believe that bank employees have turned down blacks in the past simply due to their skin color.

There you go with your racist comments. This is the problem. You ASSUME that whites (again assuming that whites are the only ones allowed to make decisions at a bank) will turn down blacks for whatever reason. You have no bona fide proof, you just want to feel like it is going on today. Thus, your and many blacks, opinions are based on heresay, thus you are angered unnecessarily creating a divide which isn't there
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
65777 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 10:02 pm to
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The Ahmaud Arbery situation

This is not "institutionalized racism". This is a case of one or two people committing a crime against an innocent individual and they are facing their day in court and we hope justice will be served. You would not call a black man's assault on a white person "institutional racism". You would properly call it a "crime".
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80092 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 10:03 pm to
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Simply because they had the wrong name. I'm not saying that it's the case all the time or even most but I do believe that bank employees have turned down blacks in the past simply due to their skin color.


Well this seems like reason enough to riot
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
2103 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 10:08 pm to
Everyone has biases, race, sex, class, religion....

Today’s injustices are a product of the past, it’s inter generational and compounding. Many pointing at the advantages minorities have, and there was a reason they were put in place. It will take generations of mild to moderate advantages for them to make up for past generations disadvantages.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13084 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 10:14 pm to
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Breesus


Great post
Posted by Zachary
Member since Jan 2007
1760 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 10:17 pm to
Governments having the official, institutionalized policy of discriminating against white males in the awarding of government contracts.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
33561 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 10:34 pm to
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The fact that you question its existence is proof of it.


Assume sarcasm.

If not, powerful fallacy amalgam.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 10:38 pm to
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Today’s injustices are a product of the past, it’s inter generational and compounding. Many pointing at the advantages minorities have, and there was a reason they were put in place. It will take generations of mild to moderate advantages for them to make up for past generations disadvantages.



Is that why Nigerians who come to America thrive?
Or Vietnamese?

Because it takes generations of affirmative action and victimhood to make things better in a country that allows advancement with hard work, education, ingenuity, and more hard work?
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
32320 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 10:50 pm to
Affirmative action hiring.
Posted by jsquardjj
Member since Oct 2009
1363 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 10:56 pm to
In 2018, Toyota settled a 22mm class action for charging higher interest rates to blacks and Pacific Islanders who had the same credit score and credentials as white customers who were charged lower rates.
Posted by Buryl
Member since Sep 2016
980 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 11:03 pm to
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This is not "institutionalized racism". This is a case of one or two people committing a crime against an innocent individual and they are facing their day in court and we hope justice will be served. You would not call a black man's assault on a white person "institutional racism". You would properly call it a "crime".


Maybe you aren't familiar with the case, but that is completely incorrect.

The first two district attorneys assigned the case refused to bring charges and eventually recused themselves. In the second one's recusal letter, he blatantly lied when defending his decision not to bring charges by stating that the McMichaels were justified under Georgia's citizens' arrest law. However, the law requires that the citizen 1) DIRECTLY WITNESS the commission or attempted commission of 2) a FELONY.

The McMichaels admitted in their interview that they didn't witness Arbery do anything except run down the street, and second, Arbery didn't commit a felony - Trespassing is a misdemeanor. The McMichaels own admissions' was sufficient to convene a GJ.

Oh and the younger McMichael said "F****** N******" after he shot Arbery.

Only after a national furor did the third district attorney bring charges.

Oh, and the first two are under investigation for prosecutorial misconduct.

Failure to Follow Guidelines


Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 11:04 pm to
Car dealerships took advantage of uninformed consumers?


Shocked. I'm shocked, I say.

I wonder if any poor non-black/latino also paid higher rates?
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 11:08 pm to
Maybe you aren't familiar with the county in question.

Two women are dead for the same district attorneys office failure to bring charges against people associated with the local law enforcement/DAs office.

Those women were white.

quote:

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity
Posted by Buryl
Member since Sep 2016
980 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 11:11 pm to
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Is that why Nigerians who come to America thrive?


Nigerians thrive primarily because

1) They tend to be highly educated; 4% have PhDs, 29% have grad degrees, compared to 1% and 11% of the total US population. They are the most highly educated ethnic group in America.
2) Most arrived in the 1980s, after the heavy lifting of the civil rights era was passed;
3) The ones who came were often on scholarships and represented the best and brightest of Nigeria;
4) Social aspects; they came from strong backgrounds and solid traditions;
5) They didn't experience the cultural disenfranchisement that the former slaves did.

I'm sure there's more....

Wikipedia


Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 11:13 pm to
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Most arrived in the 1980s, after the heavy lifting of the civil rights era was passed;


More are coming.

That's what happens when they come and have success.

More follow.

In case you haven't noticed, the US brings a ton of foreigners to this country to capture the American dream.
Posted by Buryl
Member since Sep 2016
980 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 11:14 pm to
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Maybe you aren't familiar with the county in question. Two women are dead for the same district attorneys office failure to bring charges against people associated with the local law enforcement/DAs office. Those women were white.


I completely agree that race isn't the only, or even necessarily the primary motivating factor. But overall I think it played a role in the situation.

Got a link for the other situation?
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
42064 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 11:17 pm to
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Well this seems like reason enough to riot




Your sarcasm is noted. But I never said it was a reason to anything
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80092 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 11:21 pm to
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Nigerians thrive primarily because

1) They tend to be highly educated; 4% have PhDs, 29% have grad degrees, compared to 1% and 11% of the total US population. They are the most highly educated ethnic group in America.
2) Most arrived in the 1980s, after the heavy lifting of the civil rights era was passed;
3) The ones who came were often on scholarships and represented the best and brightest of Nigeria;
4) Social aspects; they came from strong backgrounds and solid traditions;
5) They didn't experience the cultural disenfranchisement that the former slaves did.


In other words, there is now no institutional racism.
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