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re: We need to launch another Saturn V to the Moon ASAP
Posted on 5/16/20 at 1:43 pm to Chucktown_Badger
Posted on 5/16/20 at 1:43 pm to Chucktown_Badger
quote:It doesn't matter that you disagree. It's just a fact that it would be harder to live in the deep sea than on the moon or Mars.quote:I disagree.
It would be much harder to live there than on the moon or Mars
Energy:
Solar energy is abundantly available on the moon and Mars. Zero solar energy reaches the sea floor. A sea floor base would have to extract energy from thermal vents, or nuclear. Neither option is easy given the...
Pressure:
It is much easier to build a structure to keep 1 atmosphere of pressure IN than it is to build one to keep 1,000 atmospheres of pressure OUT. The extreme pressures limit the size that a structure can be. It also makes moving people and equipment into and out of the structures very difficult, if not impossible. Pretty much everything has to be tiny.
Food:
You can't grow anything down there without using massive amounts of space and energy that you don't have. The sea floor base would have to be constantly resupplied from the surface.
Purpose:
What is the point? What is the next step? Where would it take us? It's not a long-term solution for survivability of the human race. It's hard to live without purpose.
A self-sustaining sea floor base would be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to build. The environment is simply too extreme.
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Posted on 5/16/20 at 1:45 pm to Korkstand
Posted on 5/16/20 at 2:11 pm to OMLandshark
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, living on the very bottom of the ocean is one step below living on Venus
shite, I would bet you would die quicker at the bottom of the ocean than on venus. Sure, the heat would start damaging you quickly and then you would choke on the gases in the atmosphere but you would be crushed flat with the quickness on the bottom of the ocean. They just can't build submersibles good enough to last on lots of ocean bottoms or we would be down there a whole lot more.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 2:16 pm to Commander Data
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shite, I would bet you would die quicker at the bottom of the ocean than on venus. Sure, the heat would start damaging you quickly and then you would choke on the gases in the atmosphere but you would be crushed flat with the quickness on the bottom of the ocean.
Venus’ atmospheric pressure is 93 times that of earth on sea level, so that would kill you instantly on top of the heat.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 2:20 pm to DeafJam73
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Why? We’ve been to the moon. Another trip would be a multi-billion dollar waste of time. Mars is the next big project for manned space exploration.
Maybe I should look this up but I believe NASA has a goal to return to the moon fairly near term. I'll be fired up when we in the USA have a new heavy lift rocket.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 2:37 pm to gumbo2176
quote:But they explored. They pushed their limits and colonized a new place. They had the technology to leave the continent and reach a new one, and they did it. We have the technology to leave the planet and reach a new one, we should do it.quote:That is a totally different situation and you know it. Yes, they took a long and arduous boat journey and landed in a foreign country that was chock full of all the raw materials they needed to start a new life.
Think of how staggering it was for our ancestors to leave the comforts of civilization in Europe to come to America where civilization was unrecognizable to them.
They had timber to build houses, game and fish to supply their food, all the fresh potable water they could want, seeds and plants they brought with them to start agriculture on a large scale.
It wasn't in a hostile environmental atmosphere where to be outside required a sealed suit that encapsulated them and supplied the air they needed to breath and air circulation to help keep them comfortable.
Sorry, but your simplistic analogy just doesn't work for me.
It would be a disservice to future generations if we didn't.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 2:47 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
quote:Yeah look up the Artemis program and the SLS.
Maybe I should look this up but I believe NASA has a goal to return to the moon fairly near term.
quote:SpaceX's Starship will probably beat SLS to the punch, but regardless we will likely end up with multiple heavy lift platforms.
I'll be fired up when we in the USA have a new heavy lift rocket.
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