- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Was this a justifiable shooting??? nsfw
Posted on 7/3/19 at 6:44 pm to uway
Posted on 7/3/19 at 6:44 pm to uway
quote:
Dude, this isn’t Minority Report. We can’t kill people based on what they might do.
Happens all the time.
Someone breaks into my house. They are probably just going to steal some shite and leave, but they MIGHT just decide to kill me or a member of my family, so I shoot them dead.
No court of law outside of New York or California convicts me.
Or do you think criminals should be allowed to do whatever they want short of pulling the trigger of a gun without immediate consequence?
1
Posted on 7/3/19 at 6:53 pm to PrivatePublic
quote:
Or do you think criminals should be allowed to do whatever they want short of pulling the trigger of a gun without immediate consequence?
The consequence to most crimes is arrest or a ticket, not death. So depending on your need for immediacy, I guess so?
Without very immediate threat of death or great harm they should not be killed, even if that means some get away
This post was edited on 7/3/19 at 6:54 pm
Posted on 7/3/19 at 6:54 pm to uway
quote:
It isn't a blanket approval in theory, but what about in practice?
It's a guideline. LEO has to have a guideline to follow.
Every lethal force action is judged on Graham v. Conor and/or Tennessee v. Garner.
And in practice those guidelines are what determine justification or not.
This post was edited on 7/3/19 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 7/3/19 at 7:02 pm to uway
quote:
I don’t like how cops can corner someone and then when that person tries to drive out of the corner, they automatically get killed for it. Those cops obviously were able to move out of the way of the truck. We jump from wanting to protect police officers to giving them blanket approval to kill people in response to a certain type of action, even if the specific action wasn’t life threatening to the officers.
I've heard of perps being charged for murder because a cop wrecked while chasing him.
Sorry, but that seems a bit of an overreach to me. Especially when the cops are supposedly NOT obligated to protect and serve. The only one that made the cop go on a high speed chase was the cop himself.
Posted on 7/3/19 at 7:04 pm to uway
quote:
(if those paradigms have shifted as they seem to have to me).
The shift is that some people want to ignore the guidelines on determining justification set forth by SCOTUS because it often times goes against their feelings or agenda.
This post was edited on 7/3/19 at 7:06 pm
Posted on 7/3/19 at 7:16 pm to uway
quote:
First of all, the law cannot justify itself
Tell that to SCOTUS re Marbury v Madison
Posted on 7/3/19 at 7:19 pm to TSLG
quote:
Mark my redneck, white arse in the unjustified column
The cops never seemed imminently threatened to me. Seems like the first cop started shooting to keep him from getting away and the 2nd cop followed suit. They were standing on the sides of the truck. He probably couldn't have hit them if he tried.
Posted on 7/3/19 at 7:23 pm to HogBalls
statistically, i know one of yall in this thread has a problem cousin- maybe he got bad off on meth, idk- that you still love.
say that cousin robs a gas station while tweaked out and gets shot and killed trying to escape the police. are u posting in that thread saying “yes back the blue” and using “stop breaking the law, a-hole” memes? or do you wish the cops wouldve tried a taser or shooting the tires first?
say that cousin robs a gas station while tweaked out and gets shot and killed trying to escape the police. are u posting in that thread saying “yes back the blue” and using “stop breaking the law, a-hole” memes? or do you wish the cops wouldve tried a taser or shooting the tires first?
Posted on 7/3/19 at 7:25 pm to Pettifogger
quote:
The real problem is when some arguably non-violent criminal/suspect gets cornered and the police make the choice that they'll kill him rather than risk him getting away. I think that's my fundamental issue. Usually it's a mistake (they think he's capable of doing them harm), but it's still problematic IMO.
I mean, an automobile has been used to run over people on multiple occasions. Cops included. I'd easily make the argument that if you're surrounded by cops, who are actively telling you to "Stop", and you keep driving in their direction then you're using a weapon.
Posted on 7/3/19 at 7:33 pm to BluegrassBelle
quote:
I mean, an automobile has been used to run over people on multiple occasions. Cops included. I'd easily make the argument that if you're surrounded by cops, who are actively telling you to "Stop", and you keep driving in their direction then you're using a weapon.
did you watch the video? dude was idleing out of a parking space not even going toward the cops. even if he was, they got legs.
Posted on 7/3/19 at 7:43 pm to MorbidTheClown
quote:
3 strikes, baw.
robbed bank. strike 1
stealing truck .strike 2
driving in the general direction of cops aiming guns at him after being told to stop.
You're out !
He's f*ckin out.
Thank you Law Enforcement Officers for helping Make America Safe Again for this 4th of July!!
Posted on 7/3/19 at 8:10 pm to HogBalls
Frick a thief. He would have run them over no doubt! 
Page 4 of 4
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News