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re: Want To Raise Successful Boys? Science Says Do This

Posted on 7/21/18 at 5:58 pm to
Posted by NyCaLa
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/21/18 at 5:58 pm to
Strongly agree. Current model can work for girls. Not boys.

At least they used to do recess.
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
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Posted on 7/21/18 at 6:19 pm to
My kids are on the right track, then!!
Posted by dsides
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Posted on 7/21/18 at 6:22 pm to
Boys don’t care about being active today. Too many video games to play.
Posted by OKellsBells
USA
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 7/21/18 at 6:32 pm to
I have an 8 year old son, and wholeheartedly agree. Fortunately his (public) elementary does give them a lot of chances to move around. He always does better with homework if we play together or let him run around with a snack first after getting home.

Parents need to take responsibility too. During the school year, he only plays video games on the weekends. It’s not always that easy to enforce when we want to be lazy or want peace and quiet. It’s worth it though. If we watch TV on a school night, it’s a documentary.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 7/21/18 at 6:35 pm to
In the old days, weren't students required to sit still and listen, and discipline was a lot tighter? But we somehow managed to produce better academic results and fewer soyboy types.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 7/21/18 at 6:37 pm to
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3. When they fail to conform quietly to this low-energy paradigm, we over-diagnose or even punish kids for reacting the way they're naturally built to react.


This is my problem.

ETA: not the over-diagnose, but the punishment part.
This post was edited on 7/21/18 at 6:39 pm
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 7/21/18 at 6:41 pm to
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Learned behavior starts at a very early age. Like speaking multiple languages. It's much easier to learn multiple languages when kids are around the different languages.. Than when they are 16 years old and takes Spanish in HS for the first time.




The bigger problem is foreign language being a perishable skill.

This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 4:59 pm
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
21869 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 6:44 pm to
Sports is the answer. I kept my son and daughter in sports , didn't let them quit if it was hard. I have two grandsons now ( 9,5) and they both play all types of sports. Keeps them active and be a part of a team
Posted by OKellsBells
USA
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Posted on 7/21/18 at 6:44 pm to
1950’s school experience versus today:



Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 7/21/18 at 6:49 pm to
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Boys don’t care about being active today.


Most boys work best when they have hands-on, active learning.

And all kids benefit from recess, non-core classes (music, art, etc) incorporated into their education. But what has been the first to be cut in the last 10-15 years? PE, recess time, art, music, etc.
Posted by Barneyrb
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Posted on 7/21/18 at 6:54 pm to
When I was a child nothing in the world would make me straighten up and do the right thing faster than a belt leaving 7 Wrangler belt loop very rapidly. It always had a very distinctive sound and I knew it well.
Posted by OKellsBells
USA
Member since Dec 2016
5264 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 7:08 pm to
Me and big brother got belt whippings too, and turned out fine. My husband and I don’t spank our son though. I say whatever works for you, but there are disadvantages if a spank is your go-to correction.

Now that he’s older, I personally get better results, more personal satisfaction, and no guilt from a well-executed flick to the skull. I like how this form of physical correction is fast, more acceptable, easy to do in public, leaves no marks, stings for 10 minutes.

I’m pretty good at it so all I have to do is glare at him now. Or we just take away his favorite stuff and make him earn it back.
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
7075 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 7:08 pm to
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Strongly agree. Current model can work for girls. Not boys.

At least they used to do recess.



Strongly agree with that. I'll go a step farther and say that the government should get out of the education business. They've repeatedly shown failure and we just keep throwing more money at it. The current model just isn't working.
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
6176 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 7:10 pm to
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Most boys work best when they have hands-on, active learning.

And all kids benefit from recess, non-core classes (music, art, etc) incorporated into their education. But what has been the first to be cut in the last 10-15 years? PE, recess time, art, music, etc.


Agreed but it’s more complicated than a school issue. Kids have too many non active options like phones, play stations, etc and IMO that’s the biggest issue. Unless they have a planned practice or play date they won’t be active on their own.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 7/21/18 at 7:18 pm to
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Agreed but it’s more complicated than a school issue. Kids have too many non active options like phones, play stations, etc and IMO that’s the biggest issue. Unless they have a planned practice or play date they won’t be active on their own.


Absolutely.

You also have to take into consideration where kids live as well and their access to areas where they’re able to play outside (and in a safe environment). Which makes even less sense to cut it out of a structured school day where that would be available.
This post was edited on 7/21/18 at 7:20 pm
Posted by St Augustine
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 7/21/18 at 7:18 pm to
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Agreed but it’s more complicated than a school issue. Kids have too many non active options like phones, play stations, etc and IMO that’s the biggest issue. Unless they have a planned practice or play date they won’t be active on their own.



One of the reasons my wife and I moved to a neighborhood here in south Florida where we have 1.5 acres. We lock the pool fence/gate and send the kids(three and five) out for 30-60 mins (depending on heat) in the afternoons and they have to figure out something to play either together or on their own while we watch them through the window while making dinner. Just like kids from previous generations once they get going...surprise...they want to keep playing.
This post was edited on 7/21/18 at 7:19 pm
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70128 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 7:22 pm to
Agreed.

My daughter is 2 and my wife expects her to be disciplined at all times
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 8:06 pm to
agree. The entire American education system is based upon the Prussian model that produces great Nazi stromtroopers, aka mindless soldiers and educated women. It’s has always been terrible for American Boys
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 8:12 pm to
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Sports is the answer. I kept my son and daughter in sports , didn't let them quit if it was hard. I have two grandsons now ( 9,5) and they both play all types of sports. Keeps them active and be a part of a team


Got 2 boys 7 & 5, just started sports. Never in my life seen so many 7 year olds who had no idea how to hold a bat. I'm not saying every kid should be Marucci travel team skill level, but there's a lot of parenting that didn't take place between that and not knowing which hand you throw a ball with.

Yes someday's we take BP in my house before the school bus gets here
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 8:44 pm to
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