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re: Video released showing Mt. Everest base camp getting hit by avalanch

Posted on 4/27/15 at 12:13 pm to
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/27/15 at 12:13 pm to
Scary.

Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35584 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 12:18 pm to
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Read in an article yesterday that climbers that have already started the climb are stranded in some parts because the path the the Sherpas spent making the last few months have been taking out Avalanche.


It's the path down to be clear. No one is trying to advance on the mountain. Climbers tried to get down from Camp 1 yesterday but the aftershocks (up to 6.7) were so severe they had to retreat back up to Camp 1.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30282 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 12:20 pm to
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Here is link to story about woman from Scottsdale that is still stranded there. I don't know the woman, but know one of her close friends.


Did you watch the video on that site of Nepal when the earthquake hit? That would have been f'n terrifying.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 12:23 pm to
I've never done anything like this so forgive me if the following statement is ignorant...

It's probably time the climbers at Camp 1 make an attempt to carve their own path back down or they'll eventually die of exposure.

If the Sherpa's can clear a path...these climbers can clear a path. Or they'll die.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164331 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 12:24 pm to
People are saying it was nothing because it didn't leave a lot of snow behind. When people hear avalanche they think of a 20 foot deep wall of snow rushing down the mountain. While this wasn't that it was a wall of snow mixed with dirt and rocks.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22473 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 1:13 pm to
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It killed 17 people. It must have been intense.



Im assuming they were much closer than the ones filming the video in the link. Im only talking about the video.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35584 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 1:37 pm to
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Im assuming they were much closer than the ones filming the video in the link. Im only talking about the video.


The video was taken in base camp where it hit. They were just some of the lucky ones that weren't a) on the mountain below the Khumu Icefall and b) at the part of base camp that was hit the worst.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35584 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 1:44 pm to
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It's probably time the climbers at Camp 1 make an attempt to carve their own path back down or they'll eventually die of exposure


They have shelter so exposure isn't the issue. It's food and fuel to melt snow.

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Air crews were trying to rescue as many as 160 climbers, according to news release by Seattle-based Alpine Ascents International, which reported that all of its climbers and guides had been safely removed to Base Camp.

Those who had been awaiting rescue since Saturday were running out of fuel and food. The avalanche devastated what was an already treacherous route back to Base Camp through an area known as the Khumba Icefall, preventing climbers from descending, according to Madison.

Clear weather on Monday allowed helicopters to reach altitudes of 20,000 feet and pluck stranded climbers from high up the mountain, Agence France-Press reported. Because of thinning atmosphere at that high altitude, each aircraft could only evacuate two people, Romanian climber Alex Gavan said on Twitter.


Camp Elevations

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Elevations
Base Camp 5,335m (17,500ft)
Camp 1 6,000m (19,685ft)
Camp 2 6,400m (21,000ft)
Camp 3 7,200m (23,625ft)
Camp 4 7,950m (26,085ft)
Summit 8,850m (29,035ft)
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89597 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 2:16 pm to
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Camp Elevations


Was all of the drama below 6,400m? If only Camp 1 is seriously affected, that is a miracle, itself, as it can be the most quickly reconstituted - but if the damage is strung out all over the range and affecting up to Camp 4 - those cats higher up should start heading down ASAFP. The aftershocks and whatnot are going to make their situation more and more dire.

Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98285 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 2:19 pm to
IIRC, it's very early in the season and they're still acclimating. Few if any should have been higher than Camp 2.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35584 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 2:22 pm to
There were only climbers as high as camp 2. It's still early in the climbing season there.

The big avalanche was below camp 1 and actually a good bit lower than that. It was below the Khumbu Icefall and base camp.

Posted by Ace Midnight
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Member since Dec 2006
89597 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 2:24 pm to
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IIRC, it's very early in the season and they're still acclimating. Few if any should have been higher than Camp 2.


I know this is going to be unpopular, but I would cancel the season and bring everyone down.

But I would be erring on the side of caution. Not that they haven't had EQs before, but such a large one, with aftershocks surely coming in the upcoming days and weeks, the risk seems a little high. Heck, you know how many packs are going to be loose now, just waiting for a climbing crew to slide down. They didn't even need an earthquake last year or in 1996.
This post was edited on 4/27/15 at 2:25 pm
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35584 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 2:26 pm to
I agree with you. They canceled the climbing season last year after the avalanche in the icefall that killed 17 sherpas.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98285 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 2:29 pm to
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I know this is going to be unpopular, but I would cancel the season and bring everyone down.


I don't think anyone's going to be climbing this season. Base camp is a mess, the Sherpas have gone home, and travel to and from Nepal and within the country is problematic. By the time the get everything sorted out, the Monsoon will have started.

ETA: But it's important to point out that tourism is Nepal's only significant industry. Once things get somewhat back to normal, they will need people to come back and climb the mountains, visit the temples, etc. Staying away "out of respect" or whatever, would be the wrong thing to do.
This post was edited on 4/27/15 at 2:32 pm
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
11399 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 2:32 pm to
My uncle was panning on going there next summer... not to climb but to go to base camp as part of a remote medical training he is going through.

He was told today that they might shut things down next year to rebuild everything and just take a year off because of these two tragic seasons one after the other.
This post was edited on 4/27/15 at 2:33 pm
Posted by Emiliooo
Member since Jun 2013
5148 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 2:33 pm to
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Jesus would not approve of that one


Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89597 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 2:54 pm to
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He was told today that they might shut things down next year to rebuild everything and just take a year off because of these two tragic seasons one after the other.


This may be tough, short-term, but is probably the right thing to do.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35584 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 3:08 pm to
They have to rebuild the path that either goes through or skirts the ice fall every year. It's a constantly shifting thing.

Base camp is just tents and platforms they make out of stuff they bring in. Sure they use rocks to make seats and for some construction but there really isn't anything to "build" there.
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