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re: Vatican Archives. What lost artifacts are in there?

Posted on 2/21/25 at 6:34 am to
Posted by thenza
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Posted on 2/21/25 at 6:34 am to
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What really intrigues me is the information one Pope passes down to the next Pope.


We already know what the old Pope tells the new Pope.

This post was edited on 2/21/25 at 6:38 am
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 2/21/25 at 6:41 am to
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no, the synoptic gospels say the last supper was at Passover

Mosdefly do...

And you'd think a couple of good Jewish boys would have known better. But there you go... proof positive that these writers weren't near knowledgeable enough about Judaism to be one of the twelve. Because it doesn't take transcribing Hebrew to know the Sanhedrin would never have violated Pesach/Passover by assembling a court, nor took part in any crucifixion on a sabbath day, Much less on one of the seven most high-holy-days of the year. It's something so basic even a goy, gentile, non Jewish, believer like me or you should know better. So easy even a Hebraic caveman . . .


This would have been everyday vacation bible school level knowledge for even the most casual of Jew.

BTW: We are not referencing your average preparation day which happens once a week. Where on every 6th day they'll clean the house and make meals in advance, so as to not violate the 7th day. This was the special preparation day for Passover. Which requires a much more rigorous cleaning.... to be point that all risen bread is removed fro the house. All yeast must go. It's so complete that yeast-starter-sourdough is often given away or sold with the understanding it'll be sold back after the holidays. And of course the meal planning would be holiday in scope. Much like what we do with Christmas, it's special, well understood, and considerable time was spent getting ready. . . .IE: this was thee day the risen bread (the king) left the building and every Jew was still preparing (getting ready) for the big day.

Yep, it's unfortunate but like you said some of the Synoptic's got it wrong. It's kind of like the exodus across the Red Sea, where it turns out Egypt owned that other side as well, and so maybe what's written might not be exactly perfectly described. Or consider it like the very 1st page of the NT where 13 generations are counted, written, and published as 14.
Posted by Bullfrog
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Posted on 2/21/25 at 6:44 am to
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kind of like the exodus across the Red Sea
Never happened.
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
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Posted on 2/21/25 at 6:48 am to
Keyboard warrior, I said turn your brain “on”.
Posted by Night Vision
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Posted on 2/21/25 at 7:04 am to
What is buried on Oak Island?
Posted by Stitches
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 2/21/25 at 7:48 am to
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I said turn your brain “on”.


I'm not the one who can't grasp the difference between simple instructions and supernaturally revealed secrets that are for the Pope's knowledge alone.
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 2/21/25 at 8:07 am to
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Ah yes, the highest authority on the Vatican Archives, Joe Rogan.




It all appeared and made sense to Rogan on a DMT trip. Rogan fanboys are cringe.
This post was edited on 2/21/25 at 8:09 am
Posted by TigerSprings
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Posted on 2/21/25 at 8:09 am to
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Never happened.


There are chariot wheels on the sea floor and markers on the sea shore.
Posted by clownbaby
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/21/25 at 8:11 am to
Boxes and boxes of the dicks they chiseled off of all of the statues
Posted by Bullfrog
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Posted on 2/21/25 at 8:11 am to
The Israelites were never in Egypt as an enslaved people. That’s all made up. There was no great escape from there.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 2/21/25 at 8:14 am to
Mel Gibson... Is this you?
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 2/21/25 at 8:21 am to
IF the ark survived to the times of the Roman conquest, it got melted down. But it was probably melted down long before.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 2/21/25 at 9:38 am to
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And you'd think a couple of good Jewish boys would have known better.
we have no way of knowing if they were ‘good’ Jewish boys or not - plenty of Jews did not follow the law, I think Jesus mentions that several times

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Sanhedrin would never have violated Pesach/Passover by assembling a court, nor took part in any crucifixion on a sabbath day
sabbath wasn’t until sundown on Friday - Jesus was in the tomb by then

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it's unfortunate but like you said some of the Synoptic's got it wrong
kind of like getting the plural form wrong - but that’s another lesson - it is unfortunate- and that’s where faith comes in

Humans get things wrong, God does not. And if people are nitpicking as to when the last supper took place, or when Jesus was actually born - then they’re missing the whole point
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:06 am to
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supposedly in a heavily guarded church in Ethiopia


“Heavily guarded? How many guards, really? I saw one video from several years back, looked like two emaciated Ethiopian dudes standing around.

If it was really there the CIA would airdrop a few bags of cheeseburgers just out of reach, they’d steal it while the guards were chowing down.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
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Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:09 am to
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How would he manage to accomplish this seeing as how the old pope is almost always dead before a new one is chosen?


Maybe the new pope looks in that chronovisor thing and gets the message from the past.
Posted by riverdiver
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Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:12 am to
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the most important Ethiopiologist of the 20th century, Edward Ullendorff


He was the most important, because he was the only Etiopiologist in the world.

Seriously?
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:20 am to
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Scholars have access to the archives. None of the sensationalistic stuff is in there, but there are a bunch of really old documents.


IIRC, that’s partially true. Scholars DO have access, but they don’t get to wander around looking as if they’re in the local library. They have to know exactly what they’re looking for, request that specifically, and aren’t allowed access to items not requested.
And it’s not just one giant room with the Ark or the Grail stuck in the corner next to a Coke machine. It’s sectioned off.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
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Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:31 am to
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I mean, that should be pretty easy to estimate. Price of Standard Passover meal x 13, adjust for inflation.


Tip, or no tip?
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:58 am to
What I don’t understand is if they have all these amazing things why not put them on display?

Why can’t regular people see them? Especially if it’s just artifacts and writings

Now if something like the chronovisor or ark of the covenant or holy grail actually exists and they have it then I understand keeping it under lock. But most other things would be exciting and intriguing for regular people to view
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 2/21/25 at 11:00 am to
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sabbath wasn’t until sundown on Friday
correct the normal weekly one was at dark Friday. And the extra passover-sabbath on the day before.
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then they’re missing the whole point
Like Passover being on a Friday which makes crucifixion on Thursday and so we easily get three days in the ground without any juggling of wee-bits.

hint: The Passover is a Sabbath that occurs on one particular date. Like Christmas is always Dec 25 and so the day of the week is fluid. It just happened that both sabbaths (observed holy days) were back to back.


Yes, minor to some. But worth checking out for others.
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