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re: Vaccine Autism Coorelation

Posted on 8/29/23 at 4:14 pm to
Posted by roux
Tiger Territory
Member since Dec 2006
1591 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 4:14 pm to
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If you were quiet and different as a kid in 1980 they called it “quiet and different” and a doctor never even saw the child

Same if you were restless and had a short attention span (which almost all young boys have),
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
24048 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 4:18 pm to
Could be a myriad of factors including such things as what goes into our bodies (vaccines, food, plastic containers holding our food and water, chemicals in air or water, etc.) and the growing umbrella and better screening for autism.

Or, in conjunction with everything else above, maybe it could be that the average age of a woman when she has her first child has been increasing as is the rate of older women having their first child:






I believe the average age of first birth has recently reached 30 here in the USA.
This post was edited on 8/29/23 at 4:19 pm
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8783 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 4:20 pm to
Let’s say you have a child who is fully functioning but a tad socially awkward. What does diagnosing that child as “on the spectrum” do besides give them a crutch to be a victim their entire lives?
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
6933 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 4:23 pm to
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I understand that. I’m just not convinced that it explains what we’re seeing.


Other than the part where it accounts for 98%+ of the differential rates of diagnosis, sure.

That last less than 2% though-- that's super suspicious.

We are done as a species if this is the level of thinking.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20912 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 4:23 pm to
Pure blood checking in.
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
6933 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

Let’s say you have a child who is fully functioning but a tad socially awkward. What does diagnosing that child as “on the spectrum” do besides give them a crutch to be a victim their entire lives?


Gives them a heads up on having to focus on skill development through childhood, would be a big one. Gives them a heads up on how they'll have to learn to navigate social interactions. Gives them essentially every possible advantage to turn the table tilted against them, either away from that weakness, or towards a strength.

Its pretty damned invalauble for a huge number of kids, even if you have half the little shits using it as a crutch.
Posted by Locoguan0
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2017
4317 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 4:27 pm to
Maybe it is because 40 years ago, borderline and highly functional autistic kids were just beaten up and called freaks...
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29323 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 4:28 pm to
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I just looked

It’s 11 vaccines from birth to 7 not counting Covid and flu

Then after that you have the HPV and Meningitis vaccines

So 13 not counting the seasonal vaccines



I would assume that who ever came up with the 74 figure was including the 1 to 2 flu shots every year along with whatever the number of covid shots the government is currently recommended.

Of course, I see a huge difference in shots given to infants which provide immunization which have been successfully used for decades versus something like the flu shots which are generally the best guess at what strain will be going around that year. I'm not suggesting that people not get a flu shot if they want, but it's not like the MMR vaccine.

Best explanation I heard was regarding the pneumonia shot. The pneumonia shot is like getting protection from being hit by a Ford but won't stop a Chevy.

I'm not even going to get into the Covid shot.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29323 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

Let’s say you have a child who is fully functioning but a tad socially awkward. What does diagnosing that child as “on the spectrum” do besides give them a crutch to be a victim their entire lives?



Gives them a heads up on having to focus on skill development through childhood, would be a big one. Gives them a heads up on how they'll have to learn to navigate social interactions. Gives them essentially every possible advantage to turn the table tilted against them, either away from that weakness, or towards a strength.

Its pretty damned invalauble for a huge number of kids, even if you have half the little shits using it as a crutch.


Don't forget that the school systems can get extra funding of they are delivering certain services to students with special needs.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124573 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 4:47 pm to
Why is this anchored?

What has been up with the admins the past few days
Posted by browl
North of BR
Member since Nov 2017
1571 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 5:03 pm to
Trust the science, you fools.
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15567 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 5:17 pm to
I’m shocked at what they’re causing autism these days. That’s the only causation I see is a huge uptick in what qualifies in diagnosis.
Posted by hawaiiantiger
KANEOHE, HI
Member since Jan 2010
350 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 6:53 pm to
Each shot is not the vaccine sometimes. MMR for example is three vaccines in one shot.

Don't forget the 2-3 boosters of the vaccines.
Posted by blacroix
Member since Sep 2019
265 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 9:17 pm to
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CDC schedule

Keep in mind some jabs like MMR are 3 vaccines in one shot. DTaP is another multiple vaccines in one jab.

If you add up how many times they recommend getting each vaccine by the age of 18, it is a LOT. 18 alone come from the flu shot.


This is correct. It is the number of doses taken not the number of different vaccines. If you count annual Covid shots, which you know good and damn well they will be recommended, the number comes out to 72. The number of doses is 26 by 18 months of age.
This post was edited on 8/29/23 at 9:21 pm
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15673 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 10:01 am to
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Unless I missed something, nothing in the original post implied that vaccines were the only potential source of autism.

He’s trying to correlate the increase in vaccines to the increase in diagnoses. All while leaving out very important variables like increases in testing and environmental factors.
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