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re: Vacation homes: Boomers may have finally out-boomered themselves in Palm Springs, CA

Posted on 12/4/23 at 8:54 am to
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20637 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 8:54 am to
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Boomers
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Palm Springs, CA
Boomer hippies! Totally different animal than what is clogging up medical, SS, & road system here in fly over country.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
45186 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:09 am to
It sucks for sellers but housing prices have gotten way too high to begin with. I see this more as a correction in housing prices. They likely need to drop more to become affordable for younger families.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179766 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:11 am to
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20k cuts on already inflated values is kinda meh news


OK

You guys continue to ignore trends. Nothing that happened 2 years ago has anything to do with the current state of the market.

Also, if people were paying those prices were they inflated, or were they what the market was at that time? Isn't that how markets work? The price is a reflection of the current market no matter if it is up or down?

Since when is pricing rescinding, no matter how big or small, not a correction of a market? If multiple properties are dropping their prices (some by as much as 10% or more) is that not a larger indicator that the current market is adjusting?

The fact of the matter there is a correction underway in many parts of the US. I did not say crash so don't even go there. Corrections happen. It's OK to admit that instead of cheerleading the market all the time because you are a mortgage broker.

The current state of prices dropping may change if rates continue to drop but the flip side is that it may continue to slide due to outside factors no matter what rates do. We are at an affordability fork in the road and that can't be ignored.

As of now, there is a correction which includes an uptick in people falling behind on their payments as well as an uptick in foreclosure starts

Foreclosure starts were up 28% in Q3 and were also up in October so Q4 looks like it will see an increase too. The November report has not been released yet.

90-day late mortgages (not in preforeclosure yet) are also up across that same time frame.


I still think people dumping AirBNB properties is a dark horse to further suppress prices.






This post was edited on 12/4/23 at 9:15 am
Posted by SaintsTiger
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Member since Oct 2014
1966 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 3:54 pm to
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I still think people dumping AirBNB properties is a dark horse to further suppress prices.


That, and ongoing because many governments are passing and enforcing tight AirBnB regulations going forward.

The federal government is offering financial incentives to redevelop condos into apartments. And some cities are pushing ADU building . NYC is even paying $15,000,000 to homeowners to build ADUs. Up to $400k a unit.

If Zoning and permitting get loosened overall that would increase housing starts and thus supply.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118234 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 1:21 am to
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Rent them out to jarheads from 29 Stumps.



Ahhhhhh yes. 29 Palms.



”Where there’s pussy behind every tree.”
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14581 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 5:26 am to
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We’re still several years away from adequate inventory.


This is inaccurate. For primary homes, I agree. There is plenty of inventory for vacation homes, though.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
15967 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 5:32 am to
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Boomers may have finally out-boomered themselves


Things that ignorant people say for $1,000 please.

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