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Posted by Cobrasize
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 8:50 pm to
You're right. I'm not used to anyone in that part of the country having peaceful elections. Hopefully they can pull it off.
Posted by joey barton
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 8:51 pm to
They apparently announced early on that they were staying out of it. Though, there was some tank movement that people have questioned

I think that it'd be kind of hard to step in when the protesters are backed by the three major, legitimate opposition parties
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 8:51 pm to
quote:

I think Russia is going to be a major pain in the arse after the Olympics.


They already are a huge pain in the arse. Post olympics they'll have nothing left filtering them.

I have said it several times this thread but I am just waiting for them to go all Georgia on this and try to make up for some of the embarrassment of their Georgian incursion considering how unorganized they were.
Posted by kclsufan
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 8:55 pm to
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good points, but let me take a somewhat contrarian view...

how reliable do you think the Army would be in that situation?

I'm thinking that whoever is in control of the Army wonders if parts of the Army would be on the side of the protesters...

Yeah I've already wondered that about the police and military. It was a key component to the collapse of the Soviet Union when major parts of the military backed the reformers/people. I'm sure there's some major behind the scenes maneuvering going on.
Posted by drewnbrla
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 8:58 pm to
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Hey you had to go pick your kid up. I had to run up to Denver to do a little...ahem....shopping.


Sounds like the tires aren't the only thing blazing tonight

Posted by MountainTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:01 pm to
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somewhat... if the protesters win, they will have elections immediately, that'll decide who is in charge.. which is all they want

Agreed (even though you hate my guts). They don't need a new constitution, they just need to implement the one they've got and put competent people into leadership positions.

ETA: @ drew
This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 9:02 pm
Posted by Cobrasize
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:01 pm to
The espresso.tv feed is up close. Folks are flinging all kinds of stuff lol.
Posted by MountainTiger
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:05 pm to
I sure wish they hadn't set that forest on fire.
Posted by clownbaby
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:06 pm to
Link?
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:06 pm to
I'll explain the whole military/police thing in case you dont know..

They have three levels -

Police
Berkut
Military

The Police are like your normal popo, the berkut is a special govt. police force, and the military is the army.

The police are the ones on the front lines you see with the shields.. the berkut are behind them (they hold rank so they use the police to protect them). The military is staying out of it completely.

The tanks you saw belong to the berkut, not the military
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:07 pm to
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Link?


LINK
Posted by TexasTiger08
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:09 pm to
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Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:09 pm to

Reposting this in case it's useful for people...

Non-exhaustive list of active livestreams for anyone just joining:

Euromajdan (main protest/firewall area) - please set to 240p:

Full-window view: LINK

Phone-friendly version: LINK

Espreso.tv: LINK

RT: LINK

Spilno TV streams (may be intermittent):

Live Action: LINK

Press Club: LINK

Main stage cam: LINK

Spilno home page (all streams): LINK

Other streams:

Maidan Square pan-cam: LINK

Nine streams on one page: LINK

Four streams on one page: LINK


This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 9:09 pm
Posted by clownbaby
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:09 pm to
From what I understand, the Berkut is basically controlled by whatever territory they operate in. Meaning the country of Ukraine has several independently controlled Berkuts. Is the military structured the same way?

I guess the way I'm thinking, Berkut=National Guard
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:10 pm to
quote:

From what I understand, the Berkut is basically controlled by whatever territory they operate in. Meaning the country of Ukraine has several independently controlled Berkuts.


yes, but they are govt controlled

quote:

Is the military structured the same way?


not govt controlled per se.. they are their own entity
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:10 pm to
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There has been an explosion, just now, at County Police Station in tumultuous city of Chrekassy. |PR News #Euromaidan #Ukraine via @EuromaidanPR
Posted by drewnbrla
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:11 pm to
Al Gore is has to be pissed off at The TireBros

I can just see him watching all of this and cursing at the top of his lungs at his monitor


But then again, he did acquire all of those carbon credits
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:12 pm to
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no, they're not pussies.. they're doing something that'll never happen in america cause.. you guessed it.. too many of our citizens are pussified. They'll use their guns if they have to, but they're doing it the smart way by making the police fire first


We don't have to riot because we rule the world but PLEASE BELIEVE that if shite ever got real here like it is over there we would not allow the police state to do shite!
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:13 pm to
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PLEASE BELIEVE that if shite ever got real here like it is over there we would not allow the police state to do shite!


I WANT TO BELIEVE
Posted by Zed
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:14 pm to
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I can just see him watching all of this and cursing at the top of his lungs at his monitor
Gore would be putting those fires out with his tears.
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