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re: Uber banning riders, drivers from carrying guns
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:14 am to KG6
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:14 am to KG6
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Gun's don't kill people, people kill people.
As a big gun guy and supporter of the 2nd amendment (not full blown like some of you nuts), it's painful when people make this argument.
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 9:15 am
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:20 am to TheOcean
How is it painful? Either by accident or by intention, a person makes a gun go boom. I never feel uncomfortable when a loaded gun is no the table. I never think it's randomly going to fire. Now I've been around inexperienced people firing guns and I've asked them to quit doing certain things that I think are unsafe. I've never been in a situation where I thought someone might use it to harm anyone, so I can't speak to that. But in any situation, it takes a person to make a gun unsafe. That's my point. I understand why guns are taken in a little different light, but I think it's taken overboard. There are tons of other things that people don't think twice about because they trust in other human beings. Driving cars is a big one. We don't think twice that driver would veer off and hit us on purpose. We have a trust in that person for the most part. But put a gun in their hand and we suddenly get the perception that their intent is to kill people. I just don't look at it that way.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:27 am to KG6
Because even gun advocates will agree that guns don't kill people. Guns require some sort of human intervention. It's painful in my mind because it literally brings nothing to the table.
You won't find anyone who will say cars aren't extremely dangerous. But I'm not falling into the whole dangerous/design wormhole, especially not on this site
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Driving cars is a big one.
You won't find anyone who will say cars aren't extremely dangerous. But I'm not falling into the whole dangerous/design wormhole, especially not on this site
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 9:29 am
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:35 am to TheOcean
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Guns require some sort of human intervention.
So why do we blame guns? Why do guns make people so uncomfortable? I think violent television and the like are used as scapegoats as to why kids grow up thinking guns are cool and why we look at violence differently, but I also think that it gives people this false sense that everyone is out to kill everyone. If that person has a gun, he's looking for blood (either as a criminal or a vigilante).
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:40 am to KG6
The laws that protect your right to store a gun in your car while at work don't really apply to this scenario. They put in place to protect workers who legally carry their firearm to and from gun-free workplaces. The point being that a worker going into a refinery needed somewhere to store the gun or they basically couldn't carry on their way into work without risk of being fired.
Trying to extrapolate that to situations where the car is the workplace is incorrect. The point of those laws was never to have a worker be able to access a firearm at work. It is settled law that an employer can designate the workplace as a gun free zone.
Trying to extrapolate that to situations where the car is the workplace is incorrect. The point of those laws was never to have a worker be able to access a firearm at work. It is settled law that an employer can designate the workplace as a gun free zone.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:45 am to CorporateTiger
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The point of those laws was never to have a worker be able to access a firearm at work. It is settled law that an employer can designate the workplace as a gun free zone.
I understand it's not for them to have access, but when the Uber driver has not accepted a fair, he is not contracted to work for Uber and is in his personal vehicle with every right to have a firearm. So when he "shows up to work" what does he do with the firearm? I really don't know how it would work. I was just bringing up that it's a blurry section of that law to me (their may be a solution that has already been stated in law, but I won't pretend to be aware of that).
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:48 am to cellblock776
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One of their drivers used a firearm to defend himself and others so... Uber bans riders and drivers from carrying guns so we feel safer.
Really?
What kind of Up is Down, In is Out kind of thinking is that?
Exactly. I hate seeing "No Firearms Allowed" stickers on the outside of buildings. It just means "Hey, crazed shooter/burglar, come inside and start shooting! No one can shoot back!"
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:48 am to KG6
I have had some work on those laws in my practice but not much.
An Uber driver who is looking for a fare is still an independent contractor who is within the scope of his contract with Uber (I believe Uber pays a guaranteed hourly minimum to their drivers) (I'm also aware that one of their drivers was recently classified as an employee, but that case is not final yet nor applicable to every state). Therefore Uber likely has the right to require their drivers not have a firearm from the moment they open the Uber app even if they currently aren't under fare.
An Uber driver who is looking for a fare is still an independent contractor who is within the scope of his contract with Uber (I believe Uber pays a guaranteed hourly minimum to their drivers) (I'm also aware that one of their drivers was recently classified as an employee, but that case is not final yet nor applicable to every state). Therefore Uber likely has the right to require their drivers not have a firearm from the moment they open the Uber app even if they currently aren't under fare.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:51 am to thesoccerfanjax
quote:You are really not very bright. I'm advocating for individual liberty, not forcing anyone to carry a gun, but to have the option if they so choose.
We all have different versions of freedom/liberty and its almost always self serving. You're no different than the "libs" you hate so much.
What do you have against individual liberty?
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:53 am to CorporateTiger
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I believe Uber pays a guaranteed hourly minimum to their drivers
No.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:54 am to OMLandshark
quote:Wrong once again. LINK
You don't have second amendment rights in a workplace.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:55 am to c on z
Even if not that is peripheral to the general point.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:55 am to TheOcean
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Conservative posters only believe in private corporations being able to choose their own policies when it aligns with their agenda. Got it.
Where in my post did you get this from? Or are you just too dumb to respond to the right person?
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:56 am to CadesCove
I remember my first time posting on TD.com
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:57 am to KG6
because in the right or wrong hands guns are a tool that can cause a lot of hurt.
It's not a problem with guns IMO, it's a problem with how easy it is to buy guns and how little paper trail there is with them.
I can just give a gun to anyone right now, as long as I don't know they are a felon, everything is perfectly legal.
As someone who thinks from the left and owns guns. The issue is not the gun, but lack of registration and paper trails.
It's not a problem with guns IMO, it's a problem with how easy it is to buy guns and how little paper trail there is with them.
I can just give a gun to anyone right now, as long as I don't know they are a felon, everything is perfectly legal.
As someone who thinks from the left and owns guns. The issue is not the gun, but lack of registration and paper trails.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:57 am to TheOcean
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I remember my first time posting on TD.com
Hopefully, the rest of us will remember your last.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:00 am to CadesCove
I'm surprised you took some time off hard legging ugly OT broads to come post in here. We're all honored
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:05 am to Napoleon
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The issue is not the gun, but lack of registration and paper trails.
Agreed. I think hardcore gun supporters are just burying their heads in the sand when it comes to gun control issues. And it is going to come back to bite them in the arse. Public opinion is shifting fast when it comes to gun control. It's much better to stay ahead of public opinion and help enact gun control laws that make all of us safer (instead of letting gun control nazis use public opinion to their advantage).
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:06 am to TheOcean
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I'm surprised you took some time off hard legging ugly OT broads to come post in here. We're all honored
Go get stoned and tell us some more cool red pill stories, you fricking fgt.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:06 am to Napoleon
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The issue is not the gun, but lack of registration and paper trails.
I'm actually all for a stricter requirement to own a gun, but very stand-offish to registration in any form. Not worried about it in the context of our society today, but it creates the precedent for the ability to confiscate. I would be okay with a hunter's safety type card that must be attained in order to posses a gun. Maybe pass a test showing that you are competent, have no felonies, no previous mental disorders (iffy on this as well), etc.. But in no way can it show that you do in fact own any particular gun.
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