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re: Transgender man who gave birth says it was 'f***ing awful'

Posted on 9/13/19 at 12:57 pm to
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33900 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 12:57 pm to
Imagine being one of the nurses and some freak comes in saying he’s a man with a baby inside him and you have to see that Frankenstein penis while delivering the baby. Chick has like a sewn on hot dog there and it’s all flapping around while you’re trying to deliver
Posted by Blaeke
Member since Dec 2016
1062 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 12:57 pm to
If you find this weird, you're an incel that needs to go back to the poliboard.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33900 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 1:01 pm to
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If you find this weird, you're an incel that needs to go back to the poliboard.

Pardon me sir or madam or preferred pronoun. I meant to say I respect this courageous man for bringing life into the world. More men should be brave like this man and have their own children. I support LGBTQ+ rights and I would never insinuate anyone would sew on a hot dog as a penis
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74589 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 1:02 pm to
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A transgender man who gave birth to his son while legally classified as a man has opened up about the difficulties of pregnancy.

Freddy McConnell, 32, who had a child using a sperm donor, claims pregnancy would be taken more seriously if more men gave birth, in a new documentary film, Seahorse: The Dad Who Gave Birth, which portrays his fatherhood journey over three years.

“If all men got pregnant then pregnancy would be taken so much more seriously and talked about,” he says in the film.

He adds: “F***, it’s f***ing awful. If men had to go through this all the time you would never hear the end of it.”


Notice how they keep referring to this mentally deranged woman as a man? Do you think they’d do this in a story about someone with some other mental derangement? Like if I thought I was a grizzly bear and went out mauling people, in the article about what I did would they call me a bear or a man who thinks he’s a bear?
Posted by ElShugh84
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2019
109 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 1:03 pm to
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Why do we celebrate and give voice to .001% of the population? It’s getting out of control, not sure if we’ll ever swing back


Shouldn't every person no matter how small a minority have a voice? You don't have to agree with the choices or lifestyle but their life/voice is just as important as yours.
Posted by ElShugh84
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2019
109 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 1:05 pm to
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Chick has like a sewn on hot dog there and it’s all flapping around while you’re trying to deliver


You're a poet.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74589 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 1:06 pm to
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Shouldn't every person no matter how small a minority have a voice? You don't have to agree with the choices or lifestyle but their life/voice is just as important as yours.


Why should we be expected to accept them when they can’t even accept who they are?
Posted by ElShugh84
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2019
109 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 1:07 pm to
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Why should we be expected to accept them when they can’t even accept who they are?


At the risk of being bashed for having empathy I just look at it this way. Life is hard, at times really hard. For folks struggling with gender dysphoria, whether you believe it's real or not, it's gotta be exponentially harder. Therefore I don't want to be a part of making that difficult path worse.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74589 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 1:11 pm to
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At the risk of being bashed for having empathy I just look at it this way. Life is hard, at times really hard. For folks struggling with gender dysphoria, whether you believe it's real or not, it's gotta be exponentially harder. Therefore I don't want to be a part of making that difficult path worse.


What about people with other mental delusions? If someone thinks they’re the Emperor of Prussia are you going to call them Kaiser? What if your neighbor thinks he’s a dog? Will you not care when he comes and shits in your front yard?

The point of all this is we don’t indulge mental delusions by pretending they’re anything other than mental delusions. It doesn’t matter what the mental delusions are.
Posted by ElShugh84
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2019
109 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 1:14 pm to
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What about people with other mental delusions? If someone thinks they’re the Emperor of Prussia are you going to call them Kaiser? What if your neighbor thinks he’s a dog? Will you not care when he comes and shits in your front yard? The point of all this is we don’t indulge mental delusions by pretending they’re anything other than mental delusions. It doesn’t matter what the mental delusions are.


Well first off we probably won't see eye to eye b/c of the difference in thought on whether it's a mental delusion. The body/mind/etc is pretty complex with all sorts of diversity so why is it crazy to believe that someone can be born with a physical sex and a brain of a different sex. I mean there are people born with ambiguous genitalia and hermaphroditic genitalia. I dont' see the difference.

Also to answer your question fully, I work with cognitively impaired people and those with psychotic delusions so I do indulge delusions on the daily.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 1:21 pm to
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Notice how they keep referring to this mentally deranged woman as a man? Do you think they’d do this in a story about someone with some other mental derangement? Like if I thought I was a grizzly bear and went out mauling people, in the article about what I did would they call me a bear or a man who thinks he’s a bear?


This is the equivalent of the whole "gay marriage, what's next, marrying your dog?" takes.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74589 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 1:23 pm to
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Well first off we probably won't see eye to eye b/c of the difference in thought on whether it's a mental delusion. The body/mind/etc is pretty complex with all sorts of diversity so why is it crazy to believe that someone can be born with a physical sex and a brain of a different sex. I mean there are people born with ambiguous genitalia and hermaphroditic genitalia. I dont' see the difference.


Why do you hate science? Science says there are two genders. Science says you’re either one or the other gender. Science says if you think you’re a different gender from the one you actually are or you believe you’re a gender that doesn’t exist, you are mentally deranged.
Posted by ElShugh84
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2019
109 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 1:27 pm to
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Why do you hate science? Science says there are two genders. Science says you’re either one or the other gender. Science says if you think you’re a different gender from the one you actually are or you believe you’re a gender that doesn’t exist, you are mentally deranged.


Your 9th grade biology teacher may have said that but "Science" doesn't really agree, unless your only qualifier is ability to procreate but even that doesn't work for people who don't have the ability. Then you could do it based on genitalia but as stated before lots of people are born with ambiguous genitals or other such ailments. Mainstream scientists look at is more of a spectrum, similar to sex.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33900 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 1:43 pm to
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You're a poet.

I’m no fr33 but I’m pretty good
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49577 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 1:47 pm to
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If all men got pregnant then pregnancy would be taken so much more seriously and talked about,” he says in the film.


Men can’t get pregnant
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
88339 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 1:51 pm to
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born with ambiguous genitals or other such ailments.
right, but what percentage are those?
And if YOU are calling it an "ailment," you're agreeing that's not a classification or category of its own.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135032 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 1:54 pm to
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I’m no fr33 but I’m pretty good


Posted by ElShugh84
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2019
109 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 1:55 pm to
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And if YOU are calling it an "ailment," you're agreeing that's not a classification or category of its own.



I was referencing something else that is an ailment not saying that dysphoria is an ailment, though I would imagine those who have dysphoria might wish for an easier path in life.

I just don't know why anyone is so concerned with who someone has in their bed or what's in their pants. They are not asking for much why the moral outrage?
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
28721 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 1:56 pm to
nice.
This post was edited on 9/13/19 at 6:29 pm
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
88339 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 2:06 pm to
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I just don't know why anyone is so concerned with who someone has in their bed or what's in their pants. They are not asking for much why the moral outrage?
Ehh most people IRL don't give a shite.
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