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re: This is the ONLY answer to school shootings
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:29 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:29 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Well it's as far from a 12 ga as you can get. It's a model 60 .22
Probably one of the most popular firearms ever produced. Many kids get those for Christmas.
In terms of type of gun yes, but just looking at it, not entirely different.
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:29 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Most times in the school shootings, the guns have been bought legally. So yeah, your right. It’d be a hassel for those legally buying the guns, include these kids shooting up schools, to obtain them.
But I agree with that too. Again, maybe start there? Because there have been shootings were the gun was legally obtained, but not by the mass murderer. It would only punish those who are probably innocent, but would hopefully cause people to be safer with the storage of their guns.
But I agree with that too. Again, maybe start there? Because there have been shootings were the gun was legally obtained, but not by the mass murderer. It would only punish those who are probably innocent, but would hopefully cause people to be safer with the storage of their guns.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:33 pm to Indfanfromcol
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No, it isn’t just a mental health thing. That is a huge issue, yes. And guns don’t kill people, people kill people. But people relapse on mental health issues all the time.
Let's be honest here. We have a violent culture which is propped up by the following things
Violent movies glorifying gun violence
Violent shooter video games
A lack of responsibility (victim culture)
Moral and cultural values being degraded
Violent rap music
The war on drugs
Lack of parental involvement
Gun fetishes
Lack of empathy
Narcissism
Attention whoring
Those are the problems
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:35 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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In terms of type of gun yes, but just looking at it, not entirely different.
True. There's wood and metal on both
Outside of those, it's vastly different.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:35 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Violent movies glorifying gun violence
Violent shooter video games
A lack of responsibility (victim culture)
Moral and cultural values being degraded
Violent rap music
The war on drugs
Lack of parental involvement
Gun fetishes
Lack of empathy
Narcissism
Attention whoring
Those are the problems
Indeed they are. But access to guns is also a problem. Not to mention, many of the items in your list are also present in other countries, without the horrific occurrences we've grown accustomed to. That's why a little spirited debate is necessary and beneficial.
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:38 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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But access to guns is also a problem. Not to mention, many of the items in your list are also present in other countries, without the horrific occurrences we've grown accustomed to.
You're in denial. The US population is very different than those of "other countries".
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:39 pm to TDsngumbo
I'm all for this.
Would you rather a cop sitting on the side of the road writing speeding tickets, or protecting our kids in school. And, I'm all for taxation on guns to fund this. My kids are the most important thing in my world and this shite is getting out of control.
Would you rather a cop sitting on the side of the road writing speeding tickets, or protecting our kids in school. And, I'm all for taxation on guns to fund this. My kids are the most important thing in my world and this shite is getting out of control.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:39 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You're in denial. The US population is very different than those of "other countries".
I'd be curious to see if someone from Europe would say that the items in your list didn't apply to kids/people in their country.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:41 pm to Sparkplug#1
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I'm all for this.
Would you rather a cop sitting on the side of the road writing speeding tickets, or protecting our kids in school. And, I'm all for taxation on guns to fund this. My kids are the most important thing in my world and this shite is getting out of control.
Maybe chris rock had it right.
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“You don’t need no gun control, you know what you need? We need some bullet control. Men, we need to control the bullets, that’s right. I think all bullets should cost five thousand dollars… five thousand dollars per bullet… You know why? Cause if a bullet cost five thousand dollars there would be no more innocent bystanders. Yeah! Every time somebody get shut we’d say, ‘Damn, he must have done something ... shite, he’s got fifty thousand dollars worth of bullets in his arse.’ And people would think before they killed somebody if a bullet cost five thousand dollars. ‘Man I would blow your fricking head off…if I could afford it.’ ‘I’m gonna get me another job, I’m going to start saving some money, and you’re a dead man. You’d better hope I can’t get no bullets on layaway.’ So even if you get shot by a stray bullet, you wouldn't have to go to no doctor to get it taken out. Whoever shot you would take their bullet back, like "I believe you got my property.” ? Chris Rock
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:44 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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I'd be curious to see if someone from Europe would say that the items in your list didn't apply to kids/people in their country.
Im sure it does, but we're far more affected.
It's just so much easier to blame the tool and dance around the root of the problem.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:46 pm to Chucktown_Badger
Outdoor board is gonna be pissed when congress can’t decide on any extra gun control policy, and instead tax the shite out of guns and ammo to make it almost impossible to buy either.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:48 pm to Indfanfromcol
Wow --- I quit paying much attention to the OT for a little while and just came back to see this thread blew up
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:52 pm to Indfanfromcol
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and instead tax the shite out of guns and ammo to make it almost impossible to buy either.
Would be shot down with quickness. You're not a fan of the constitution, are you?
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:55 pm to UpToPar
Like taxes on cigarettes? 
Yep, you caught me. I’m as little of a fan of the constitution as you are a fan of school shootings.
Yep, you caught me. I’m as little of a fan of the constitution as you are a fan of school shootings.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:57 pm to Indfanfromcol
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Outdoor board is gonna be pissed when congress can’t decide on any extra gun control policy, and instead tax the shite out of guns and ammo to make it almost impossible to buy either.
That would just create a black market
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:58 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Agreed. Every time there has been a law that took rights away from people, boom, a black market gets created. My car with no seatbelts was super expensive to buy on the black market, but totally worth it.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:59 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Im sure it does, but we're far more affected.
It's just so much easier to blame the tool and dance around the root of the problem.
I'd be curious to see if there is any research on the first part. On the second, no one is ignoring the root of the problem. We're just "woke" enough to see the significant role the tool plays. As I've said ad nauseum, it's not just one fix, it's many things that working together hopefully help prevent this from happening with such frequency. Because the status quo hasn't been doing it (and judging by the sound bites from come politicians, the status quo is what we're going to get).
Posted on 2/16/18 at 3:00 pm to Indfanfromcol
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Like taxes on cigarettes?
Point me to the part of the constitution stating that the right of the people to smoke cigarettes shall not be infringed. Thanks.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 3:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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That would just create a black market
I'm not sure I agree with that. If retail gun prices skyrocketed, yes a black market might still exist, but do you really think "the street" would continue to sell a handgun for $150 that retails for $300, if getting a new one in a store instead cost $5,000? Hell no. The black market would also go up and it'd still make it more difficult to get a gun.
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 2/16/18 at 3:01 pm to Indfanfromcol
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My car with no seatbelts was super expensive to buy on the black market, but totally worth it.
Don't be intentionally dense. A car with no seatbelts has no utility over a car with seatbelts.
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