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re: The world’s capacity to manufacture batteries by country
Posted on 1/24/23 at 11:59 am to Powerman
Posted on 1/24/23 at 11:59 am to Powerman
quote:One of the co-founders of Tesla now owns a company that recycles EV batteries. They can use/recycle nearly every component of the battery and it can then be recycled over and over again.
Not really considering that a decent portion of the battery materials can be recycled and reused
Posted on 1/24/23 at 12:00 pm to Zarkinletch416
quote:No
Five questions. Are you democrat? Do you own an internal combustion powered car? Do you own stock in car battery manufacturers? Are you chinese? What is your opinion of President Donald J. Trump?
Yes
No
No
Indifferent
Now what?
Posted on 1/24/23 at 12:03 pm to Cuz413
quote:It's odd how this board all of a sudden posts nonstop in every EV thread about this, but I've never seen those same posters do the same about zero regard for human life for the child/slave labor used to make cell phones and, ya know, basically anything that comes from China.
Joe Rogan with Siddharth Kara is a must listen to get an inside take on what is really happening to make this "Green" transition possible.
Zero regards for human life.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 12:05 pm to shel311
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It's odd how this board all of a sudden posts nonstop in every EV thread about this, but I've never seen those same posters do the same about zero regard for human life for the child/slave labor used to make cell phones and, ya know, basically anything that comes from China
This is outright wrong
Posted on 1/24/23 at 12:46 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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This is outright wrong
Posted on 1/24/23 at 12:53 pm to shel311
I would currently not own an EV, but will probably consider one in 2-3 years for a non-long distance travel second vehicle. Also, I have never voted Democrat and cant imagine I ever will.
I wanted to get that out of the way for those of you who have some sort of pre-conceived infatuation that the car you drive and your political leanings are somehow joined at the hip.
My question is as the market share of EV's continues to increase, and it most certainly will, why do people immediately assume that the technology in current batteries not evolve as well?
The idea that the current level of a car battery's charge capacity, weight, cost, and technology will remain stagnant for the next five years as demand grows exponentially is asinine.
The basic structure of this same argument happened between sail vs steam, horse vs car, and train vs plane. Currently, imo, there is not a large enough gap between the present mode and proposed future mode of personal vehicles. When that gap closes, and it will, future generations will look back on this the same way we look back on past technology.
I wanted to get that out of the way for those of you who have some sort of pre-conceived infatuation that the car you drive and your political leanings are somehow joined at the hip.
My question is as the market share of EV's continues to increase, and it most certainly will, why do people immediately assume that the technology in current batteries not evolve as well?
The idea that the current level of a car battery's charge capacity, weight, cost, and technology will remain stagnant for the next five years as demand grows exponentially is asinine.
The basic structure of this same argument happened between sail vs steam, horse vs car, and train vs plane. Currently, imo, there is not a large enough gap between the present mode and proposed future mode of personal vehicles. When that gap closes, and it will, future generations will look back on this the same way we look back on past technology.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 1:04 pm to Basura Blanco
quote:If you follow any of these threads on the OT, it's because folks have an agenda against EVs, don't really know much about them so they repeat things they've read on FB and emails they were forwarded that are just flat wrong...that's basically it.
My question is as the market share of EV's continues to increase, and it most certainly will, why do people immediately assume that the technology in current batteries not evolve as well?
Part of that agenda is just misplaced hate. They hate that the government in a couple of states has mandated EV only by 2035(won't happen but not the point) but instead of hating the government/states that placed those mandates, they aren't able to fully think things through so they think that means they need to also hate on EVs for some weird reason.
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 1/24/23 at 1:31 pm to shel311
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If you follow any of these threads on the OT, it's because folks have an agenda against EVs, don't really know much about them so they repeat things they've read on FB and emails they were forwarded that are just flat wrong...that's basically it.
Part of that agenda is just misplaced hate.
I agree that it is absolutely stupid to associate the car you drive with a political position. I hate politics for a million reasons. One of the many being that the left has decided to make EV's "their" agenda and the right has decided to be against EV's because the other side claimed it.
It is a fricking car/truck. I love the idea of a Tesla plaid, yet my weenie still moves a little when I get being the wheel and rev the engine of my Dad's 2018 485 HP Dodge Challenger. I have neither of those reactions, quite the opposite in fact, whenever I hear the two vehicles associated with politics.
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