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re: The wife and I made a difficult decision this weekend

Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:38 pm to
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Yikes, you are really worked up.


Not really. I just don't see the confusion when I quoted the stuff that I called nonsense and asked what it meant.
Posted by SamuelClemens
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:40 pm to
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We will do all we can to help with scholarships, trade schools, loans if they want to go down that road, etc.


The best thing I did was ROTC to pay for undergrad and then graduate school in the military.

The worst thing was leaving the agency to get my doctorate from a private school and racking up $170k (but the degree does pay for itself).
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:41 pm to
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How isn't public ivy the term you were talking about

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The frick does this nonsense even mean? "Public Ivy" ?


Way to just pull half the post without context. Seems like something a lawyer would do.

ETA: Here is all of it, and apparently I will need to explain it to you and Mr Public Ivy

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I'm sorry I'm threatening your bootstrap narrative, Lnchbox, but that story simply isn't realistic for the typical college student today. We'll have to agree to disagree on that one, but things have changed under your feet, my compadre.
The frick does this nonsense even mean? "Public Ivy"


The nonsense I'm asking about is
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I'm sorry I'm threatening your bootstrap narrative, Lnchbox, but that story simply isn't realistic for the typical college student today. We'll have to agree to disagree on that one, but things have changed under your feet, my compadre.


I then mock his supposed public ivy education with
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"Public Ivy"


This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 12:44 pm
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:42 pm to
I'm certainly not going back 20 pages of y'all's hissy fit.

Public Ivy discussion was far more interesting.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 12:43 pm
Posted by LouisianaLady
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:44 pm to
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insulting


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It seems your parents may not have expected much of you because of your gender


God, could you be more a presumptuous contrarian a-hole on a regular basis?

My parents would have died of happiness had I excelled in those topics. Sadly, I don't.

1/4 of engineering students is still "fairly low". That's still a 75% male makeup. Every time the wage gap comes up, YOU SAME PEOPLE bring up the fact that women make less because women tend to pursue lower paid careers on average. Which I agree with, by the way.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 12:46 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:45 pm to
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I'm certainly not going back 20 pages of y'all's hissy fit.


So because you chose to not read I'm the one having a hissy?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:46 pm to
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God, could you be more a presumptuous contrarian a-hole on a regular basis?


Could you be a bigger twat for no reason?
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1/4 of engineering students is still "fairly low". That's still a 75% male makeup


It's a shite load more than it used to be.

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Every time the wage gap comes up, YOU SAME PEOPLE bring up the fact that women make less because women tend to pursue lower paid careers on average.


Speaking of presumptions.

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I stand by the fact that I think it is a dick move to refuse to pay for your child's education simply because they are not math/science oriented.


Good thing I never said to do that.

ETA: You are just so predictably with your hostility for anything from me.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 12:48 pm
Posted by LouisianaLady
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:47 pm to
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Could you be a bigger twat for no reason?



Are you kidding? You just assumed an entire upbringing when you don't know my family at all. You're a dick.

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It's a shite load more than it used to be.



Again, doesn't change the fact that you may very well have a daughter who ISN'T GOOD AT THAT. And she doesn't have the plethora of other options males have purely due to lack of physical ability.
Posted by LouisianaLady
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:48 pm to
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Good thing I never said to do that.



Sorry - Where did I say that you said that?

I was expounding on my post that you responded to..
Posted by Raleigh Tiger
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:49 pm to
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I stand by the fact that I think it is a dick move to refuse to pay for your child's education simply because they are not math/science oriented.


All the financial experts say you should never put college expenses ahead of your retirement. Your kid has his whole life to earn what he needs to pay loans and build retirement, while the parent has considerably less time.

That being said, I paid 100% of my son's college, plus two years of grad school.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:50 pm to
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Are you kidding? You just assumed an entire upbringing when you don't know my family at all. You're a dick.

Your post reads like someone that wasn't pushed to explore all options based on your gender. I've never been one to beat around the bush.
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Again, doesn't change the fact that you may very well have a daughter who ISN'T GOOD AT THAT.

Both her parents are, so the odds are definitely in her favor. Couple that with not limiting her based on her gender, and I'd bet she'll end up just fine.

Posted by LouisianaLady
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:51 pm to
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All the financial experts say you should never put college expenses ahead of your retirement.


My post specifically called out people who would fund their child's education if they do ABC, but not if they do XYZ.

As I said, there's a limit. I understand not funding some bullshite program that shouldn't even BE a degree program, especially if your kid isn't all that passionate or bright. However, if your child is bright and likely to succeed, it is pretty fricked up to say you'll only pay if they do into a STEM field.
Posted by LouisianaLady
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:54 pm to
My post doesn't read like that at all. Women are statistically less likely to be in those fields at it currently stands. Even now with a huge push in the last 20 years for women to be in these fields, we are only at 25% per you. I hope to see that increase as much as anyone, but this has absolutely zero to do with my parents or my upbringing. No idea why me pointing out the low % of women in STEM automatically says anything about my parents or me as a person at all.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:54 pm to
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So because you chose to not read I'm the one having a hissy?


"Y'all" is plural. Meaning you and the other guy.

Let's not throw stones at glass houses.

BTW, when he (supposedly) incorrectly thought you meant Public Ivy as a "term" you never heard of you responded:

You may have meant something else before his response as you were mocking him, but your later responses seem to infer you indeed had not heard the term before.
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The frick does this nonsense even mean? "Public Ivy"



You've seriously never heard that term before? fricking looking it up, genius.




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that term

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I'm sorry I'm threatening your bootstrap narrative, Lnchbox, but that story simply isn't realistic for the typical college student today. We'll have to agree to disagree on that one, but things have changed under your feet, my compadre.

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No, can't say I've heard of this exact term. I'm guessing googling it will bring me to this page of this thread and nowhere else.


So you quote "that term" where the other poster is talking about Public Ivy and say "you've never heard it", but you say that after the section of his quote that you think is "nonsense".

Now a reader can only surmise two things, either the term you are confused about is "public ivy" or a term located in the part you quoted. Now the only "term" in there is "bootstrap narrative' which I think isn't too difficult to parse out.


So really, while you mocked Public Ivy and then he asked if you never heard of it, you did apparently respond that you hadn't. I don't know what any other reader could have thought you meant there.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 12:57 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:57 pm to
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My post doesn't read like that at all.


It absolutely does.

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Women are statistically less likely to be in those fields at it currently stands.


Did you gloss over the numbers I posted for med school? And the number of females in theses fields is increasing every year. As I said, your view is outdated.

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Even now with a huge push in the last 20 years for women to be in these fields, we are only at 25% per you.


How very selective of you.
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I hope to see that increase as much as anyone, but this has absolutely zero to do with my parents or my upbringing.


Those numbers have nothing to do with it. The entirety of your post makes it seems like women are expected to do less than men.
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No idea why me pointing out the low % of women in STEM automatically says anything about my parents or me as a person at all.


Well, your opinion on the numbers came off as uninformed. And it sure seems like I'm right that you aren't particularly informed on the subject.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:57 pm to
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I'm sorry I'm threatening your bootstrap narrative, Lnchbox, but that story simply isn't realistic for the typical college student today. We'll have to agree to disagree on that one, but things have changed under your feet, my compadre.

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No, can't say I've heard of
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this exact term
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I'm sorry I'm threatening your bootstrap narrative, Lnchbox, but that story simply isn't realistic for the typical college student today. We'll have to agree to disagree on that one, but things have changed under your feet, my compadre.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:58 pm to
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So you quote "that term" where the other poster is talking about Public Ivy and say "you've never heard it", but you say that after the section of his quote that you think is "nonsense".

Now a reader can only surmise two things, either the term you are confused about is "public ivy" or a term located in the part you quoted. Now the only "term" in there is "bootstrap narrative' which I think isn't too difficult to parse out.


So really, while you mocked Public Ivy and then he asked if you never heard of it, you did apparently respond that you hadn't. I don't know what any other reader could have thought you meant there.



YOU'RE JUST MOVING THE GOALPOST YOU STUPID IGNORANT frick! YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT! SORRY YOU JUST CAN'T UNDERSTAND


--LNCHBOX
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:58 pm to
Well, he's wrong here, so...
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:59 pm to
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Well, he's wrong here, so...



In your mind, yes. In reality, no
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 1:00 pm to
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In your mind, yes. In reality, no


No, in reality too.
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