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re: The state sanctioned mafia known as River Pilots are shaking down the chemical industry

Posted on 4/3/18 at 10:51 am to
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
50093 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 10:51 am to
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real reason everyone is pissed is that some river trash families have figured out a way to corner a valuable profession. First time in history of the World that has happened.

My redneck as frick family of directional drillers would like a word
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 10:52 am to
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Especially if the person has been taught the skill since he was old enough to walk.


BUT you JUST SAID experience doesn't make them better.



You dont believe that a person that has been taught the ends and outs of navigating the river since he was 5 years old and is now old enough to hold the job on his own, lets says he's 35 years old... could be better at the job with zero actual experience than someone that has been on the job for a total of 15 years but not nearly the amount of knowledge?


Even though the greenhorn doesnt actually have the amount of on hands experience, he has much more knowledge than the guy with 15 years hand on experience.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 10:53 am to
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But that experience isn't as valuable as this experience.



Knowledge is is more valuable than experience
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10381 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 10:54 am to
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What's even more is I haven't stopped.



Well you're not actually doing anything and are apparently a glutton for punishment, so why would you stop?

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If it's so important to y'all that river pilots be seen as less nepotic and more open, proceed with legal action.


If it's so important to you that people stop saying mean things about river pilots and pointing out the bullshite ways the profession operates, then come up with reasons to actually defend them and disprove/retort the points being made.

Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
50093 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 10:54 am to
So his resumè goes like this:

Born: 1985
28 years of experience
List dad, uncles, brothers here
Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
76564 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 10:54 am to
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You dont believe that a person that has been taught the ends and outs of navigating the river since he was 5 years old and is now old enough to hold the job on his own, lets says he's 35 years old... could be better at the job with zero actual experience than someone that has been on the job for a total of 15 years but not nearly the amount of knowledge?


Even though the greenhorn doesnt actually have the amount of on hands experience, he has much more knowledge than the guy with 15 years hand on experience.


You gotta be trolling with this.
Posted by LCA131
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 10:55 am to
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Knowledge is is more valuable than experience



And this.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 10:56 am to
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My redneck as frick family of directional drillers would like a word



Valid. Hey, I believe SFP is a lawyer?

Even he wouldn't touch this case from a legal standpoint. Just decrying nepotism.

It's more sad that people want to belittle a profession that provides value, when if the tables were turned and they could control it, they would in a heartbeat.

Some upset individuals.
Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
38952 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 10:56 am to
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Even though the greenhorn doesnt actually have the amount of on hands experience, he has much more knowledge than the guy with 15 years hand on experience.




When you and TMS are ready for your lobotomies, call me. I've seen every episode of Grey's Anatomy AND I used to watch ER.

Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171955 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 10:57 am to
An adult who's been on the job 15 years and doesn't know the ins and outs of navigating the river.

Your hypothetical treats the 15 year vet like a fricking retard who spent 15 years not learning shite.
Posted by Captain Crackysack
Member since Oct 2017
2231 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 10:58 am to
These guys have experience though. Nowadays they all went to a maritime academy and spent time on ships before getting a pilot job. What I don't understand is all the people who bash pilots yet would never go to a maritime academy anyway. You can still make 200k working 6 months a year as a captain yet none of these people want to do that. So don't complain about pilot jobs when you don't have any interest in being in the industry regardless
Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
76564 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 10:58 am to
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When you and TMS are ready for your lobotomies, call me. I've seen every episode of Grey's Anatomy AND I used to watch ER.


So even though you've watched a lot of television and read some books you've never actually held a scalpel in your hand?

Sounds good to me!
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171955 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 10:58 am to
The standard for pointing out blatant nepotism on the OT now is whether or not you'd take the case to court.
This post was edited on 4/3/18 at 10:59 am
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 11:00 am to
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Your hypothetical treats the 15 year vet like a fricking retard who spent 15 years not learning shite.



If he was only in the coast guard it's possible
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
50093 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 11:00 am to
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I used to watch ER

According to 08 you have 24 years of experience since ER started in 1994
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
31889 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 11:00 am to
How can you expect anyone to maintain a decent standard of living on $473K per year? These members of the lucky sperm club are obviously struggling to get by.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 11:01 am to
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If it's so important to you that people stop saying mean things about river pilots and pointing out the bullshite ways the profession operates, then come up with reasons to actually defend them and disprove/retort the points being made. 


That's not as fun as seeing people upset they can't make 500k/yr because they don't have the right last name.

Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
38952 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 11:01 am to
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According to 08 you have 24 years of experience since ER started in 1994


Don't shortchange me. My mom used to watch it with me!!!
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171955 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 11:01 am to
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If he was only in the coast guard it's possible



Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37758 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 11:02 am to
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Knowledge is is more valuable than experience



right, that's why so many college graduates are told "sorry, but you don't have any experience" when being rejected for a job

Knowledge based on experience trumps all.
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