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The Stanford prison experiment was faked. Leaked audio shows subjects were told to act
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:26 pm
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The participants in the experiment, who were male college students, didn't just organically become abusive guards, reporter Ben Blum wrote in Medium. Rather, Philip Zimbardo, who led the experiment and is now a professor emeritus of psychology at Stanford University, encouraged the guards to act "tough," according to newfound audio from the Stanford archive.
Moreover, some of the outbursts from the so-called prisoners weren't triggered by the trauma of prison, Blum found. One student prisoner, Douglas Korpi, told Bluma that he faked a breakdown so that he could get out of the experiment early to study for a graduate school exam
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Damn...this was a very significant and very widely taught experiment
All up in smoke
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:37 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Gotta push that agenda. frick factual results.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:43 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I thought it was well known that the study was manipulated?
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:46 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Rather, Philip Zimbardo, who led the experiment and is now a professor emeritus of psychology at Stanford University,
How old is this guy?
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One student prisoner, Douglas Korpi, told Bluma that he faked a breakdown so that he could get out of the experiment early to study for a graduate school exam
This sounds more like a participant bullshitting than the experiment being faked.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:57 pm to northshorebamaman
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This sounds more like a participant bullshitting than the experiment being faked
Agreed. It was portrayed and understood in the movie as such as well
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:05 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
From 2013-
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/freedom-learn/201310/why-zimbardo-s-prison-experiment-isn-t-in-my-textbook
2012 article, which includes a 2005 article from the Stanford Daily-
https://valtinsblog.blogspot.com/2012/03/lie-of-stanford-prison-experiment.html?m=1
The new leaked audio appears to support the claims that the experiment was flawed, but in no way does it show the experiment was faked. The experiment happened, and it's flaws have been known for a while.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/freedom-learn/201310/why-zimbardo-s-prison-experiment-isn-t-in-my-textbook
2012 article, which includes a 2005 article from the Stanford Daily-
https://valtinsblog.blogspot.com/2012/03/lie-of-stanford-prison-experiment.html?m=1
The new leaked audio appears to support the claims that the experiment was flawed, but in no way does it show the experiment was faked. The experiment happened, and it's flaws have been known for a while.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:28 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
A much longer and more detailed look at the experiment cites investigations by French Scientists who went back to the original pepers in Stanford archives.
There they found that the day before the expt started, the guards were told how to behave. That means that the widely reported guard behavior did not evolve, but was pre planned and not at all random.
There was a major problem that the'prisoners' had signed a paper that supposedly had the phrase that would get them out of jail, except that phrase was no where in the paper they signed. (Somebody forgot and left the permission slips in the files). The guy who had the mental breakdown in day 3 or 4 was interviewed and his story contradicts what appeared in the juried scientific report.
The link above is a long read. A really long read. Only the truly interested will slog through it, and will, I think, find it well worth their time.
There they found that the day before the expt started, the guards were told how to behave. That means that the widely reported guard behavior did not evolve, but was pre planned and not at all random.
There was a major problem that the'prisoners' had signed a paper that supposedly had the phrase that would get them out of jail, except that phrase was no where in the paper they signed. (Somebody forgot and left the permission slips in the files). The guy who had the mental breakdown in day 3 or 4 was interviewed and his story contradicts what appeared in the juried scientific report.
The link above is a long read. A really long read. Only the truly interested will slog through it, and will, I think, find it well worth their time.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:51 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Why dont they just do it again?
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:31 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
That experiment was flawed and stupid from the get go. The “prisoners” all know it’s a game. The “guards” tried to be harassed.
It’s not like they were in there for months “hanging out” with Bubba. Softies.
It’s not like they were in there for months “hanging out” with Bubba. Softies.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:47 pm to fightin tigers
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Why dont they just do it again?
Oh, they and others have tried to do it, an nobody got the same results. The lack of reproducibility is the reason that so many people questioned the results. But the guy who was in charge had become important and tenured professor at Stanford is a power slot.
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