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The Stanford prison experiment was faked. Leaked audio shows subjects were told to act

Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:26 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74709 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:26 pm
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The participants in the experiment, who were male college students, didn't just organically become abusive guards, reporter Ben Blum wrote in Medium. Rather, Philip Zimbardo, who led the experiment and is now a professor emeritus of psychology at Stanford University, encouraged the guards to act "tough," according to newfound audio from the Stanford archive.

Moreover, some of the outbursts from the so-called prisoners weren't triggered by the trauma of prison, Blum found. One student prisoner, Douglas Korpi, told Bluma that he faked a breakdown so that he could get out of the experiment early to study for a graduate school exam


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Damn...this was a very significant and very widely taught experiment

All up in smoke
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 9:02 pm
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
11158 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:37 pm to
Gotta push that agenda. frick factual results.
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
53568 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:43 pm to
I thought it was well known that the study was manipulated?
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38577 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:46 pm to
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Rather, Philip Zimbardo, who led the experiment and is now a professor emeritus of psychology at Stanford University,

How old is this guy?
quote:

One student prisoner, Douglas Korpi, told Bluma that he faked a breakdown so that he could get out of the experiment early to study for a graduate school exam

This sounds more like a participant bullshitting than the experiment being faked.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
98740 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:57 pm to
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This sounds more like a participant bullshitting than the experiment being faked


Agreed. It was portrayed and understood in the movie as such as well
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
4636 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:05 pm to
From 2013-
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/freedom-learn/201310/why-zimbardo-s-prison-experiment-isn-t-in-my-textbook

2012 article, which includes a 2005 article from the Stanford Daily-
https://valtinsblog.blogspot.com/2012/03/lie-of-stanford-prison-experiment.html?m=1

The new leaked audio appears to support the claims that the experiment was flawed, but in no way does it show the experiment was faked. The experiment happened, and it's flaws have been known for a while.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
12217 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:28 pm to
A much longer and more detailed look at the experiment cites investigations by French Scientists who went back to the original pepers in Stanford archives.

There they found that the day before the expt started, the guards were told how to behave. That means that the widely reported guard behavior did not evolve, but was pre planned and not at all random.

There was a major problem that the'prisoners' had signed a paper that supposedly had the phrase that would get them out of jail, except that phrase was no where in the paper they signed. (Somebody forgot and left the permission slips in the files). The guy who had the mental breakdown in day 3 or 4 was interviewed and his story contradicts what appeared in the juried scientific report.

The link above is a long read. A really long read. Only the truly interested will slog through it, and will, I think, find it well worth their time.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79831 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:51 pm to
Why dont they just do it again?
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19459 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:31 pm to
That experiment was flawed and stupid from the get go. The “prisoners” all know it’s a game. The “guards” tried to be harassed.
It’s not like they were in there for months “hanging out” with Bubba. Softies.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
12217 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:47 pm to
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Why dont they just do it again?


Oh, they and others have tried to do it, an nobody got the same results. The lack of reproducibility is the reason that so many people questioned the results. But the guy who was in charge had become important and tenured professor at Stanford is a power slot.
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