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re: The scumbag side of General Douglas McArthur
Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:27 pm to indytiger
Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:27 pm to indytiger
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So for all you history buffs, did McArthur deserve the MOH? General Doug that is, not his father.
Not in my dad’s, who served in the Pacific, or my uncles who served under McArthur, or my opinion
This post was edited on 5/18/25 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:58 pm to LsuNav
My Dad (New Guinea -Leyte -Luzon vet, then 35 years Army) watched them film Mac's return while manning a machine gun nest. Changed clothed an while staff held up sheets and refilmed mulitple times. He absolutely HATED McArthur for wasting soldiers' lives for personal glory.
edited for spelling
edited for spelling
This post was edited on 5/18/25 at 8:59 pm
Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:59 pm to The Egg
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MacArthur even staged scenes of his return to the Philippines, he was not what history says he was
An alumni of my fraternity was in that video. His stories form the Pacific theater were immasculating
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 5:36 am
Posted on 5/18/25 at 9:12 pm to prplhze2000
Douglas Macarthur is probably my favorite American general in history. Maybe my favorite American, period. Not because I think he was the best (as if you could even quantify such a thing) but just because he is just so damn interesting and a larger than life figure of the type that we seem to have lost to history. For all of his shortcomings, and he had several, he had a lot of strengths too. He had tremendous physical courage. He loved this country. He loved the Army. And yes, he loved Doug Macarthur. He also is almost singlet handedly to thank for modern day Japan being as strong as it is and also a powerful ally.
I realize it's become almost the default now to laugh at him and talk about how terrible he was (this thread is proof), but a lot of that is a hundred years of hindsight and narratives that have been created and altered over the years. I don't profess to have any more insight or wisdom into Macarthur than anyone else, but I do think in this modern day, people tend to hone in on the negative aspects of this man while ignoring a whole lot of positive.
Downvote away, I'm sure you will, but I love General Macarthur.
I realize it's become almost the default now to laugh at him and talk about how terrible he was (this thread is proof), but a lot of that is a hundred years of hindsight and narratives that have been created and altered over the years. I don't profess to have any more insight or wisdom into Macarthur than anyone else, but I do think in this modern day, people tend to hone in on the negative aspects of this man while ignoring a whole lot of positive.
Downvote away, I'm sure you will, but I love General Macarthur.
Posted on 5/18/25 at 9:14 pm to jmarto1
Dugout Doug was definitely a scumbag. In the 1930s, he sued newspaper columnist Drew Pearson for defamation. The lawsuit stemmed from Pearson's column, which accused MacArthur of receiving promotions due to nepotism, specifically mentioning the influence of his former father-in-law.
The lawsuit was eventually dropped when he discovered that Pearson possessed evidence of MacArthur's romantic relationship with a young performer named Isabel Cooper, which could have damaged his reputation and career. To avoid the scandal becoming public, MacArthur settled out of court, paying Cooper to leave Washington, D.C.
Cooper committed suicide a few decades later.
The lawsuit was eventually dropped when he discovered that Pearson possessed evidence of MacArthur's romantic relationship with a young performer named Isabel Cooper, which could have damaged his reputation and career. To avoid the scandal becoming public, MacArthur settled out of court, paying Cooper to leave Washington, D.C.
Cooper committed suicide a few decades later.
Posted on 5/18/25 at 9:14 pm to indytiger
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So for all you history buffs, did McArthur deserve the MOH? General Doug that is, not his father.
He was awarded the MoH for his defense of the Philippines. The notion his performance there warranted the MoH is laughable. I’ll give two main reasons:
1. First off, even though he had several hours warning he allied the majority of his Air Force be destroyed on the ground at the start of the campaign. This gave air superiority to Japan from the start of the campaign.
2. He allowed the vast majority of his supplies, particularly food, to fall to the Japanese in the opening days of the campaign. There was so much rice left behind in warehouses, the Japanese ended up burning huge piles of it because there was nothing else to do with it. Mac’s poor planning from a logistics standpoint needlessly put his force on a path of starvation. Had he staged provisions in a more sane manner, or at least had a plan in place to evacuate the supplies, the Filipino and American forces, WHICH OUTNUMBERED THE JAPANESE, could have held out months longer. Instead, thanks to Douglas MacArthur, tens of thousands of American and Filipino troops were forced to starve.
So, no, he did not deserve the MoH. So, why’d he get it? That’s simple, in 1942 America was desperate for heros, and Mac was already both a celebrity and a hero in the eyes of the American people. That’s what it boils down to.
Posted on 5/18/25 at 9:36 pm to jmarto1
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His stories form the Pacific theater were immaculating
That word....
Posted on 5/18/25 at 9:43 pm to prplhze2000
My grandfather fought in the Pacific during WWII and he hated MacArthur. Cussed him everytime I brought him up.
Posted on 5/18/25 at 9:53 pm to beerJeep
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McArthur was right. We should have turned on the fricking commies the second the war was over.
That was Patton, but MacArthur wanted to expand the Korean War and possibly uses nukes on China. Truman did not. Truman fired him.
This post was edited on 5/18/25 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 5/18/25 at 9:55 pm to Darth_Vader
Colin P. Kelly was awarded the MoH for allegedly diving his crippled B-17 into a Japanese battleship and destroying it.
That's not exactly what happened, but, as with Mac, America needed heroes.
That's not exactly what happened, but, as with Mac, America needed heroes.
Posted on 5/18/25 at 11:35 pm to Jim Rockford
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MacArthur's faults have already been enumerated here, but I'll add another one: he was chief of staff of the Army during the Bonus March and gave the order to evict the marchers at bayonet point.
If I remember correctly, the eviction started with a cavalry charge to break up the Bonus Army. That charge would be the last on horseback for the US Army, and was led by George Patton.
Posted on 5/18/25 at 11:59 pm to Harry Boutte
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If I remember correctly, the eviction started with a cavalry charge to break up the Bonus Army. That charge would be the last on horseback for the US Army, and was led by George Patton.
Patton's WWI orderly, who had saved his life, was in the Bonus Army and attempted to meet with Patton. This is a rather long but interesting article about it LINK
Posted on 5/19/25 at 10:22 am to Jim Rockford
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Thanks, but about that link... lol
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