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re: The scumbag side of General Douglas McArthur

Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:27 pm to
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:27 pm to
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So for all you history buffs, did McArthur deserve the MOH? General Doug that is, not his father.


Not in my dad’s, who served in the Pacific, or my uncles who served under McArthur, or my opinion
This post was edited on 5/18/25 at 9:30 pm
Posted by HotBoudin
Metry
Member since Sep 2003
966 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:58 pm to
My Dad (New Guinea -Leyte -Luzon vet, then 35 years Army) watched them film Mac's return while manning a machine gun nest. Changed clothed an while staff held up sheets and refilmed mulitple times. He absolutely HATED McArthur for wasting soldiers' lives for personal glory.

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This post was edited on 5/18/25 at 8:59 pm
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
36361 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:59 pm to
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MacArthur even staged scenes of his return to the Philippines, he was not what history says he was


An alumni of my fraternity was in that video. His stories form the Pacific theater were immasculating
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 5:36 am
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
7094 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 9:12 pm to
Douglas Macarthur is probably my favorite American general in history. Maybe my favorite American, period. Not because I think he was the best (as if you could even quantify such a thing) but just because he is just so damn interesting and a larger than life figure of the type that we seem to have lost to history. For all of his shortcomings, and he had several, he had a lot of strengths too. He had tremendous physical courage. He loved this country. He loved the Army. And yes, he loved Doug Macarthur. He also is almost singlet handedly to thank for modern day Japan being as strong as it is and also a powerful ally.

I realize it's become almost the default now to laugh at him and talk about how terrible he was (this thread is proof), but a lot of that is a hundred years of hindsight and narratives that have been created and altered over the years. I don't profess to have any more insight or wisdom into Macarthur than anyone else, but I do think in this modern day, people tend to hone in on the negative aspects of this man while ignoring a whole lot of positive.

Downvote away, I'm sure you will, but I love General Macarthur.
Posted by JohnnyBgood
South Louisiana
Member since May 2010
4394 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 9:14 pm to
Dugout Doug was definitely a scumbag. In the 1930s, he sued newspaper columnist Drew Pearson for defamation. The lawsuit stemmed from Pearson's column, which accused MacArthur of receiving promotions due to nepotism, specifically mentioning the influence of his former father-in-law.

The lawsuit was eventually dropped when he discovered that Pearson possessed evidence of MacArthur's romantic relationship with a young performer named Isabel Cooper, which could have damaged his reputation and career. To avoid the scandal becoming public, MacArthur settled out of court, paying Cooper to leave Washington, D.C.

Cooper committed suicide a few decades later.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
69290 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 9:14 pm to
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So for all you history buffs, did McArthur deserve the MOH? General Doug that is, not his father.


He was awarded the MoH for his defense of the Philippines. The notion his performance there warranted the MoH is laughable. I’ll give two main reasons:

1. First off, even though he had several hours warning he allied the majority of his Air Force be destroyed on the ground at the start of the campaign. This gave air superiority to Japan from the start of the campaign.

2. He allowed the vast majority of his supplies, particularly food, to fall to the Japanese in the opening days of the campaign. There was so much rice left behind in warehouses, the Japanese ended up burning huge piles of it because there was nothing else to do with it. Mac’s poor planning from a logistics standpoint needlessly put his force on a path of starvation. Had he staged provisions in a more sane manner, or at least had a plan in place to evacuate the supplies, the Filipino and American forces, WHICH OUTNUMBERED THE JAPANESE, could have held out months longer. Instead, thanks to Douglas MacArthur, tens of thousands of American and Filipino troops were forced to starve.

So, no, he did not deserve the MoH. So, why’d he get it? That’s simple, in 1942 America was desperate for heros, and Mac was already both a celebrity and a hero in the eyes of the American people. That’s what it boils down to.
Posted by TygerLyfe
Member since May 2023
2054 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 9:36 pm to
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His stories form the Pacific theater were immaculating



That word....
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
10409 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 9:43 pm to
My grandfather fought in the Pacific during WWII and he hated MacArthur. Cussed him everytime I brought him up.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
60768 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 9:53 pm to
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McArthur was right. We should have turned on the fricking commies the second the war was over.


That was Patton, but MacArthur wanted to expand the Korean War and possibly uses nukes on China. Truman did not. Truman fired him.
This post was edited on 5/18/25 at 10:04 pm
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
41814 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 9:55 pm to
Colin P. Kelly was awarded the MoH for allegedly diving his crippled B-17 into a Japanese battleship and destroying it.
That's not exactly what happened, but, as with Mac, America needed heroes.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
2104 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 11:35 pm to
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MacArthur's faults have already been enumerated here, but I'll add another one: he was chief of staff of the Army during the Bonus March and gave the order to evict the marchers at bayonet point.

If I remember correctly, the eviction started with a cavalry charge to break up the Bonus Army. That charge would be the last on horseback for the US Army, and was led by George Patton.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
102464 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 11:59 pm to
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If I remember correctly, the eviction started with a cavalry charge to break up the Bonus Army. That charge would be the last on horseback for the US Army, and was led by George Patton.


Patton's WWI orderly, who had saved his life, was in the Bonus Army and attempted to meet with Patton. This is a rather long but interesting article about it LINK
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
2104 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 10:22 am to
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https;//www.tigerdroppings.com/MBerror.aspx?aspxerrorpath=/rant/If%20I%20remember%20correctly,%20the%20eviction%20started%20with%20a%20cavalry%20charge%20to%20break%20up%20the%20Bonus%20Army.%20That%20charge%20would%20be%20the%20last%20on%20horseback%20for%20the%20US%20Army,%20and%20was%20led%20by%20George%20Patton.%20%20%20%3Ca%20class=/

Thanks, but about that link... lol
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