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re: The Percentage of Americans With Less Than $1,000 in Savings Is Shocking

Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:18 am to
Posted by Haydo
DTX
Member since Jul 2011
2949 posts
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:18 am to
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You'd have to be making almost $200k just to be maxing out a 401k


This. I've been putting away 15% since I graduated college in 2013. Solid amount, but it's not reaching the max. I think (hope) that may change this next year though!

Max out the 401k then add what I can, when I can to my brokerage.
This post was edited on 12/20/19 at 9:18 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261251 posts
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:20 am to
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Today's American economy is booming. 3 % unemployment rate. Stock market at an all-time high. And sadly, $1K for savings is not achievable for 69 % of Americans. We're fcuked when the economy goes into the shitter again.


People are less intelligent than in the past and instant gratification is the rule of the day.

This is why people are screaming for a bigger safety net, they can't survive without it.
Posted by Nigel Farage
South of the Mason-Dixon
Member since Dec 2019
1210 posts
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:20 am to
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I couldn’t sleep at night if I had less than $1,000 in the bank.


You get used to it.
Posted by gamatt53
Member since Nov 2010
4934 posts
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:21 am to
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cool. Thanks for sharing


No problem. Being able to retire earlier > having a shiny new boat.

Let’s assume this guys loan was for 60k @ 4.5% for 10 years. That’s a monthly note of just over $600

If instead he had invested that at a 7% return he would have 100k after 10 years. So that boat really didn’t cost him 60k it cost him 100k plus all the future returns on that as well. So 30 years in the future he could have half a million in his investment account...or he could have 30 year old pictures of him in a boat that by now is in a scrap yard somewhere.
This post was edited on 12/20/19 at 9:24 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99054 posts
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:23 am to
I would be quivering in the fetal position if that were me.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23780 posts
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:24 am to
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Nearly 33% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck, which explains their glaring lack of savings.


For me the level of savings (money that I intentionally put out of reach) makes me live like I'm living paycheck to paycheck.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23780 posts
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:25 am to
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or he could have 30 year old pictures of him in a boat that by now is in a scrap yard somewhere.


And he would have actually lived a fun and interesting life.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30100 posts
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:27 am to
maybe because banks only pay 0.00000000001% interest on your money

every time i get paid i take it all out because i rather put it to use then earn nothing on it in the bank

banks start paying 4-5% on savings and watch how fast they find bank accounts overflowing with money

but its also part of the credit card world we live in, cash isnt something you need or use much anymore
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55808 posts
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:29 am to
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So 30 years in the future he could have half a million in his investment account...or he could have 30 year old pictures of him in a boat that by now is in a scrap yard somewhere
what incredible stuff are you going to do in your early retirement that so clearly outweigh having a boat when you’re young and active
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
13917 posts
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:32 am to
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Once you use your credit to buy an asset, you owe money to an outside party that you must repay,

This is called debt.
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Your car loan is a liability, as is your mortgage, student loan debt, and credit card balances.

Again, this is debt. Debt is a liability.

The ability to get debt is not a liability. It is a very useful tool.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57316 posts
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:36 am to
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The ability to get debt is not a liability. It is a very useful tool.



I understand your point.
This post was edited on 12/20/19 at 9:37 am
Posted by gamatt53
Member since Nov 2010
4934 posts
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:38 am to
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what incredible stuff are you going to do in your early retirement that so clearly outweigh having a boat when you’re young and active


Why bother saving money at all with that logic?

You can still have a boat just get something older that has already depreciated unless you are talking about an offshore boat. In that case just go out on charters with your buddies it will be way cheaper
Posted by Stingy
TN
Member since Mar 2014
1907 posts
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:39 am to
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We're fcuked when the economy goes into the shitter again.





Who's we? Speak for yourself.
Posted by SpencerRob
Pass Christian, MS
Member since May 2008
1144 posts
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:41 am to
70% of Americans are also uneducated and unintelligent, so those numbers aren’t surprising.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55808 posts
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:47 am to
You’re doing a “if you spend more than me you’re wrong” thing and that’s silly

For all you know he uses it five times a week, or “had” to spend that much to meet needs

I could afford a 70k car but drive a 15k car because Im not a car guy. I’m not going to lecture a car person on tbt financial implications though.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
14494 posts
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:50 am to
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all entitlement programs eliminated. this is why I say to watch YouTube about the freedom dividend. it's all explained.


Well I know the difference between a far-fetched idea and reality.
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
6556 posts
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:53 am to
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Why bother saving money at all with that logic?


Why do you holier than thou types always go to the exact opposite extreme. There’s plenty of financially responsible space between paycheck to paycheck and put every dollar into retirement
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18286 posts
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:54 am to
No - the 1% are completely immune after getting tens of trillions in free cash since the 2008 "recession". People that were on the edge of bankruptcy with millions upon millions in debt have cash sitting around for the next 100 years. It is the middle class, which is in decline, that got freaked over again.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97689 posts
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:55 am to
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People are irresponsible with money. My gf doesn’t have enough extra money to buy a new tire for her car but makes 50k a year, no kids, and I pay for dang near all her food. And she is 5 years older than me (I’m about to turn 29).

I have over 15k in my account and I own 2 boats (one paid for, owe 56k on other) have a 2015 gmc z71 fully loaded i paid off, and almost done paying student loans. Granted I make more than her but I also have more bills.

She just blows her money shopping


Hopefully you aren’t considering marriage with a woman like this
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261251 posts
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:55 am to
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No - the 1%


Stopped right there.
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