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re: The Depp/Heard Trial is the gift that keeps on giving
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:17 pm to LNCHBOX
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:17 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Anyone who has actually paid attention Johnny Depp's life and career since 21 Jump Street. The best thing that happened to his reputation was being accused of unprovable domestic violence. Before this, everyone just assumed he was a violent, wasted a-hole. Now there is sworn testimony that he isn't that way all the time.
Where do you retards come from?
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 2:23 pm
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:17 pm to JudgeHolden
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And her rebuttal direct wasn’t bad.
You don't think it's bad that, on direct, she laid out how the entire world of social media hated her, blamed her, and loved Johnny?
As a juror, who was strictly prohibited from following that, hearing her tell me how the world saw the case, would make it much easier for me to fight for my verdict in his favor. She let the jury know who the world was backing in the case.
IMO, that's bad.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:20 pm to Gris Gris
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Elaine appeared on the Today Show today.
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She says Amber will appeal and has good grounds.
that's rich... I wish you the best of luck in that endeavor quote:
She said Amber cannot pay the judgment.
don't tell the lie if you can't pay the fine
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Elaine claims that there was a lot of evidence that should have been admitted, but was not
provide more easily verifiable evidence next time
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including the judgment in the UK which she believes would have resulted in dismissal of this case.
Heard was not the defendant in that case... different defendant... different set of facts... different justice system (i.e. UK law instead of US law)... and that's not even getting into the alleged impropriety by the judge in that case
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Elaine believes social media influenced the jury, though she does not have proof.
that's rich considering her client asked the jury to defy a court order while on the stand by telling them to look her up online when the judge reminded the jury daily to not do outside research (meaning looking up the defendant online)
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:20 pm to Gravitiger
It was pretty easy to see how genuine Depp was when evidence or questions were presented. I guess his legal team were actors too with the true emotion they showed in caring that the truth came out. Even at times when it didn't matter b/c the jury wasn't present it showed.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:23 pm to rt3
quote:That judge also didn't know that a "pledge" to donate money is no guarantee.
and that's not even getting into the alleged impropriety by the judge in that case
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:34 pm to Saintsisit
quote:It was also pretty easy to see how genuine he was as Captain Jack Sparrow. Because he is an outstanding actor.
It was pretty easy to see how genuine Depp was when evidence or questions were presented.
She is not.
He also gave his testimony in some weird transcontinental accent, like he's Angela Lansbury or something.
Again, he's a much better actor than she is.
quote:Again, he had much better lawyers than she did. Because he could afford much better lawyers than she could. She can't even afford to put up bond on appeal. He's making tens of millions of dollars a year on royalties alone.
I guess his legal team were actors too with the true emotion they showed in caring that the truth came out. Even at times when it didn't matter b/c the jury wasn't present it showed.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:37 pm to Gravitiger
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Before this, everyone just assumed he was a violent, wasted a-hole.
Did anyone consider Johnny Depp violent before Amber Heard? All I really knew is he was a weirdo and a wino
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:41 pm to jchamil
quote:Depends on a highly selective definition of "violent".
Did anyone consider Johnny Depp violent before Amber Heard?
He would regularly destroy hotel rooms and trailers, just for fun and drugs. Just like any other teenage rock or movie star. Belligerent a-hole.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:42 pm to Gravitiger
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Depends on a highly selective definition of "violent".
He would regularly destroy hotel rooms and trailers, just for fun and drugs. Just like any other teenage rock or movie star. Belligerent a-hole.
Partying and domestic assault/sexual assault are two very different things.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:43 pm to jchamil
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Did anyone consider Johnny Depp violent before Amber Heard? All I really knew is he was a weirdo and a wino
that was 1 of the most interesting things said in the trial... all of the rumors of Depp being violent started with Amber Heard... including the Kate Moss rumor
either while crossing Amber or in her closing arguments... Camille basically said the Kate Moss rumor was started by Amber Heard
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:43 pm to LNCHBOX
Right. But the question I was responding to was literally about "violent", not "sexual assault".
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:44 pm to Gravitiger
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But the question I was responding to was literally about "violent"
And you equated "violence" with what is essentially partying. Regardless, I don't agree that a great many people considered him a violent person prior to this twat.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:47 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:No, I equated violence with actual violence. That you think that is "just partying" is a you unsecure thing. I used the language of the person I was responding to.
And you equated "violence" with what is essentially partying. Regardless, I don't agree that a great many people considered him a violent person prior to this twat.
I also don't agree that a "great many people considered him a violent person". That's not anything close to what I said.
You don't have to be a "violent person" accordingly to a "great many people" to commit an act of violence.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:48 pm to Gravitiger
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is a you unsecure thing
What does this even mean?
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I also don't agree that a "great many people considered him violent". That's not anything close to what I said.
I'll rephrase, almost no one thought he was violent prior to this twat. That better for you, Mr contrarian?
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:49 pm to Gravitiger
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Again, he's a much better actor than she is.
It does not matter; Depp admitted to his faults that he is/was an alcoholic and drug addict... These weren't up for debate and were irrelevant to the purpose of the trial.
The main objective of his defamation suite is to show that he had never been the woman abuser and rapist that Amber accused and told the world.
There is a substantial difference between being an eccentric, perhaps shitty, person vs. a wife-beater and rapist.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:56 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Don't pretend like you don't know.
What does this even mean?
quote:Yes. Say what you actually mean. Don't use hyperbole without reason. It's not hard to express yourself emotionally like a normal human being.
I'll rephrase, almost no one thought he was violent prior to this twat. That better for you, Mr contrarian?
Posted on 6/2/22 at 3:01 pm to Lokistale
quote:There is no "was". He "is" an alcoholic and drug addict. Has been since he was 12 years old. He continues to abuse alcohol and drugs, despite decades of therapy and rehab.
Depp admitted to his faults that he is/was an alcoholic and drug addict... These weren't up for debate and were irrelevant to the purpose of the trial.
His not even remembering punching and kicking her because he was so wasted is definitely relevant to yhe trial.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 3:03 pm to Gravitiger
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He "is" an alcoholic and drug addict. Has been since he was 12 years old. He continues to abuse alcohol and drugs, despite decades of therapy and rehab.
and you know what? neither the judge nor jury could give a rats arse, largely irrelevant
Posted on 6/2/22 at 3:03 pm to Gravitiger
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His not even remembering punching and kicking her because he was so wasted is definitely relevant to yhe trial.
It’s hard to remember something that didn’t actually happen
Posted on 6/2/22 at 3:06 pm to Gravitiger
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Gravitiger
Everyone in this thread already realizes you are an irrational woman and you're not going to change anyone's mind.
Nobody gives a shite what you have to say so it would be in everybody's best interest if you just shut the frick up already.
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