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re: The Battle of Mosul has begun - Peshmerga about 7km away from city

Posted on 10/17/16 at 4:06 pm to
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/17/16 at 4:06 pm to
Aren't the "rebels" Isis?
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70117 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 4:07 pm to
Will turkey committ genocide again?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
139207 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 4:10 pm to
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I'd say that the Kurds are more than deserving of their own country.


Agree 100%. Those people have fought their asses off for us and we always leave them high and dry.

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Of course, Turkey's heads would explode over the formation of an independent Kurdistan.


After the recent coup, Turkey is a lost cause. I say we go ahead and do it as we can't count on Turkey to be any sort of ally.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 4:11 pm to
Weren't the Pesh the ones that were getting destroyed by ISIS about 3-4 months ago when the SEALs went in and bailed them out and one of the SEALs was killed?
Posted by thickandthin
In The Zone
Member since Apr 2009
1205 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 4:18 pm to
Paul Allen = Biggest pussy on tigerdroppings
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 4:25 pm to
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dont give a shite about this part of the world anymore


The Middle East is the "Simpsons" of global politics, it quit being interesting a decade ago but they'll keep making episodes long after we're all dead. But somehow it still feels important so I'll tune in every now and then.
Posted by TejasPete
Member since Dec 2013
1425 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 4:54 pm to
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I know I might be crazy, but if for some reason shite hit the fan in my life here and I could, I would be over there hand and hand with the Kurds.


Sure you would.
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 4:58 pm to
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Of course, Turkey's heads would explode over the formation of an independent Kurdistan.


If that would literally happen, it's just another one in the pro column for Kurdistan.
Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
12475 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 5:00 pm to
Beautiful photos and country. I'm sure the Pershmerga, Sunnis, Shiites, Shia, and other tribal religions will easily find common ground and work their differences out. It might take awhile for them to work those differences out but trust me if anyone can work on their differences it people in that region--the region of peace!
Posted by AZTarheeel
Member since Feb 2015
3702 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 5:17 pm to
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Aren't the "rebels" Isis?



Many of the rebels are ISIS, but not all of them.

Today they are our friend, we train and arm them.

Tomorrow they are our enemy, killing our soldiers and the women and children of western Europe.

Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139207 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 5:18 pm to
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Many of the rebels are ISIS, but not all of them.

Today they are our friend, we train and arm them.

Tomorrow they are our enemy, killing our soldiers and the women and children of western Europe.



You forgot to add "rinse and repeat"
Posted by TheIrishFro
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 10/17/16 at 5:36 pm to
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Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 10/17/16 at 5:47 pm to
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Obvious to everyone, Iraq cannot sustain its borders as it is with a democratic government. Saddam only kept it together through pure authoritarian crap. A Kurdistan is perfectly logical. But Turkey doesn't want the Kurds in its borders to get any ideas so they will oppose it. And we can't get on Turkey's bad side, we need their position for our military.

We can establish an international border and also establish conditions of independence and recognition by the UN. We're already on Turkey's bad side and they're pretty temperamental with our use of their country as a strategic location. Besides, with a new Kurdistan, we can move our bases out of Turkey and use Kurdistan as a strategic location.
Posted by TheIrishFro
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 10/17/16 at 5:54 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 7:57 am
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139207 posts
Posted on 10/17/16 at 6:02 pm to
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I like this, it just seems like in 30 years we'll be having the same problems with Kurdistan then.

Nah, the Kurds are legit. As much as we've screwed them over the years, they're still very loyal to us.

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Would we want to lose Turkey as an ally have them possibly buddy-buddy with Russia?

That's probably going to be an inevitability anyway. I think they'll be out of NATO one way or another in the next 5 years at the current pace.
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