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re: Tesla truck seen in the wild in Vegas
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:47 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:47 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Was wondering if I should just steal his whole script and post it in this thread haha.
Same. I was going to link the two videos, but I figured no one was going to spend 20minutes watching them.
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:48 pm to GoRuckTiger
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Something cool the Cybertruck has that other traditional trucks don't have is the self driving option. I don't think any other truck manufacturer is close to implementing that.
Tesla is ahead of the pack on self driving, but others have begun major investments into this.
Also, I wonder if full auto pilot will be a 7k add on like it is now
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:49 pm to Obtuse1
quote:Agreed, that's why I conceded the one poster's point about the F450 specs, but mentioned that's really not a Cybertruck competitor/market Tesla is going to focus on.
Nobody that needs/wants a 250 or above will look at Tesla.
quote:Yep. Unless you're driving near or over the range limit often or often find yourself off the beaten path in some random, small towns, I don't really understand this.
ot directed at anyone here but people keep moving the goalposts on EVs. No matter how much the range increases and the charging time goes down it still needs to be better. I hear this from people that literally only drive more than 100 miles in a day 3-4 times a year.
quote:Truest words one can speak on EVs.
Current EVs are indeed not for everyone but a hell of a lot of people would be thrilled with them if they didn't spend so much time looking for a reason to dislike them.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:49 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Ford bringing theirs to market next year. I think this is the first big competitor.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:49 pm to shel311
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Not new. The price is the price.
On one hand, I like that very much.
On the other hand, cybertrucks value prop just got worse.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:50 pm to Obtuse1
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:51 pm to Jim Rockford
Looks like a pinewood derby car
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:51 pm to fightin tigers
quote:Well, when we have all these discussions about what trucks and specs can do at similar prices, I'd argue the total cost of ownership is what we should be using and not purchase price.
For someone who is looking at total cost of ownership it will be very important.
Bu my point still stands, the cheaper cost of ownership is meaningful/relevant, not sure why you'd downplay it.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:54 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:If you pre-order you're locked into $7k no matter what. So anyone who pre-orders sould add that feature because you can always remove it if you don't want it when it's time to build your vehicle.
Also, I wonder if full auto pilot will be a 7k add on like it is now
But in general, no chance FSD will be $7k 2-3 years from now.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:55 pm to shel311
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Bu my point still stands, the cheaper cost of ownership is meaningful/relevant, not sure why you'd downplay it.
Because total cost of ownership takes 5 years to equal out.
Again, depends on the owner, but 5 years is a long time to own a car for some people.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:55 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:The buying process is so unbelievably easy.
On one hand, I like that very much.
Order online. Pay them. Car shipped to your house.
That's really it for the most part.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:56 pm to Jim Rockford
Looks like a hideous crossover.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:57 pm to fightin tigers
quote:Compared to what?
Because total cost of ownership takes 5 years to equal out.
You can still use 3 years and probably save in the $5-10k range.
quote:it doesn't have to be 5 years.
Again, depends on the owner, but 5 years is a long time to own a car for some people.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:57 pm to shel311
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but mentioned that's really not a Cybertruck competitor/market Tesla is going to focus on.
What is the market?
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:58 pm to shel311
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Compared to what?
You can still use 3 years and probably save in the $5-10k range.
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A comparable ICE truck.
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it doesn't have to be 5 years.
Obviously. Speaking in averages.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 3:00 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:Overall, the market is going to be those folks who buy F150s and similar sized trucks with all the bells and whistles but not necessarily just for the functionality is my guess.
What is the market?
I could be wrong here but I think it's a safe bet that more folks who buy, say, an F150 will do so for style and not necessarily funcationality than an F450 comparably.
This truck isn't likely to corner the market as the tough nosed work truck IMO. It'll be more so for people who just think it's way cooler and better in many ways than the F150s of the world.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 3:02 pm to Jim Rockford
For a few thousand they could get em a metal bending machine
Posted on 12/10/19 at 3:04 pm to shel311
It looks so bad it is kinda good.
A buddy has the Tesla Model X and it is pretty neat in what it does. I will say this: The ENORMOUS windshield is a negative in SE Texas during the summer months because that AC can’t keep the cabin cooled appropriately. Also, TESLAs chew up tires something fierce due to their extremely heavy weight. He’s lucky to get 18K miles out of a set. Tesla also puts something in the tires that Discount Tire has a hard time dealing with.
The double or triple motor would be the only viable choices.
A buddy has the Tesla Model X and it is pretty neat in what it does. I will say this: The ENORMOUS windshield is a negative in SE Texas during the summer months because that AC can’t keep the cabin cooled appropriately. Also, TESLAs chew up tires something fierce due to their extremely heavy weight. He’s lucky to get 18K miles out of a set. Tesla also puts something in the tires that Discount Tire has a hard time dealing with.
The double or triple motor would be the only viable choices.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 3:04 pm to shel311
So, the Lincoln Blackwood
I do think the truck has a market. It is the luxury market. Which is where the S and X sit. It is an image truck.
I do think the truck has a market. It is the luxury market. Which is where the S and X sit. It is an image truck.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 3:07 pm to Jim Rockford
I really like the look of the truck, but the back is just ugly as frick
Almost looks like they forgot to finish it
Almost looks like they forgot to finish it
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