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re: Tesla to source battery materials from a new Vidalia, LA processing plant
Posted on 4/23/22 at 5:49 am to member12
Posted on 4/23/22 at 5:49 am to member12
Can Vidalia supply the workforce needed for this expansion? I’m sure most of the new employees needed for this will come from Natchez. I doubt neighboring Ferriday has enough skilled laborers. But I think this is huge for the area
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Posted on 4/23/22 at 5:53 am to LongueCarabine
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You haven’t refuted anything I’ve said, and now you’re throwing insults around.
He refuted (correctly) something you said in the very first sentence. He then continued to refute several of your other points.
Yours are the same arguments that have been discussed literally a hundred times or more on tOT.
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ETA: 5% line loss, LOL!
You laugh at it but provide no cite to the contrary.
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The U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) estimates that electricity transmission and distribution (T&D) losses equaled about 5% of the electricity transmitted and distributed in the United States in 2016 through 2020.
EIA
One of the key things to understand is electric motors are more efficient at producing power whether the source of the energy is FF or wind power than an internal combustion engine. The average ICE is well under 40% thermal efficiency where an EV's electric motors are around 85% efficient so even with all the transmission and distribution losses they are still far more efficient than ICE engines. Don't forget gasoline and diesel also have the equivalent of line losses as well. Those fuels don't magically arrive at the pump without energy being used to deliver them.
Posted on 4/23/22 at 5:53 am to bakersman
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Can Vidalia supply the workforce needed for this expansion? I’m sure most of the new employees needed for this will come from Natche
Thank god for Natchez workforce
Posted on 4/23/22 at 6:07 am to Obtuse1
“Estimates” - from a U.S. government bureau.
Surely no bias there, given that the Biden administration wants to end fossil fuels.
Surely no bias there, given that the Biden administration wants to end fossil fuels.
This post was edited on 4/23/22 at 6:11 am
Posted on 4/23/22 at 6:17 am to LongueCarabine
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“Estimates” - from a U.S. government bureau.
Surely no bias there, given that the Biden administration wants to end fossil fuels.
Simply provide your argument against that. Even if it is double that EV motors are still more efficient by a good margin over ICE vehicles at turning energy from the original source into power. As much as we have moved forward with internal combustion thermal efficiency it is still remarkably low. The most efficient engines on the plant are in the 60% range and road legal ICE engines are all under 40% most of them significantly under 40% thermal efficiency. The massive amounts of heat they produce has to come from somewhere.
Posted on 4/23/22 at 6:33 am to frequent flyer
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think he can handle JBE.
ExxonMobil said the same thing. "We deal in countries like Nigeria, Iraq,, Saudi Arabia, Iran, surely we can get a deal done in Louisiana"
Then builds in Texas
Posted on 4/23/22 at 9:31 am to the LSUSaint
Would you build anything else in BR if you were Exxon?
Posted on 4/23/22 at 9:35 am to boudinman
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Would you build anything else in BR if you were Exxon?
They’ve added on to the refinery several times in the last few years, and nearby Exxon Chem. They just got started with a $410 million expansion and modernization. Exxon BR is one of their most integrated, largest refineries because of everything else they’ve built in Baton Rouge that integrates into their refining operations.
There is a lot you can criticize Louisiana for, but it’s industrial base in the Baton Rouge - New Orleans area is damn strong. Even if it struggles in every other aspect of economic growth.
This post was edited on 4/23/22 at 9:42 am
Posted on 4/23/22 at 9:35 am to member12
Mmmmmmmm….. onion rings
This post was edited on 4/23/22 at 9:36 am
Posted on 4/23/22 at 11:23 am to boudinman
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Would you build anything else in BR if you were Exxon?
Would you if you were Tesla?
Posted on 4/23/22 at 12:22 pm to LongueCarabine
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“Estimates” - from a U.S. government bureau. Surely no bias there, given that the Biden administration wants to end fossil fuels.
There’s nothing political about those numbers, they’re accurate. It’s been backed up by tens of thousands of IE reports commissioned by private investors. Refuting that point just shows how little you know about this topic.
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