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re: Terrorist’s mosque is ordering its members to refuse to talk to fbi
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:12 am to ProjectP2294
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:12 am to ProjectP2294
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You keep repeating the same thing illustrating you either don't understand or refuse to acknowledge what I'm saying.
I understand it just fine. you think a literal natural born and raised american citizen somehow isn't a citizen because he committed a terrorist act. you now want to label him and muslims as "not american." that is an extremely slippery slope and retarded. this is exactly how we ended up with the overreaching patriot act, but you people never learn
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I'm trying to minimize what problem? And we're not talking about Scotland.
the fact that you don't understand "no true scotsman" just proves you're retarded
This post was edited on 1/2/25 at 9:14 am
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:13 am to Stinger_1066
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You may want to ask some Native Americans how they feel about that.
Why?
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:16 am to TH03
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I understand it just fine. you think a literal natural born and raised american citizen somehow isn't a citizen
You say you understand it just fine and then mention citizenship.
The only reference I made to citizenship was that he is an American on paper. Which means that I'm not disputing that he's a citizen.
He's not an American though. If he's actively seeking the destruction of America, he's not an American.
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the fact that you don't understand "no true scotsman" just proves you're retarded
Who said I didn't understand it? You're repeating like you found it on your "Idiom of the Day" calendar this morning and are proud of your newfound phrase. No one gives a shite.
This post was edited on 1/2/25 at 9:19 am
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:17 am to ProjectP2294
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You say you understand it just fine and then mention citizenship.
The only reference I made to citizenship was that he is an American on paper. Which means that I'm not disputing that he's a citizen.
He's not an American though. If he's actively seeking the destruction of America, he's not an American.
you are literally writing a textbook example of the "no true scotsman" fallacy lmao
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:18 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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What this mosque is basically doing is trying to prevent the fbi from finding others involved.
Also potentially committing the crime of Obstructing Gov't Operations. (A bullshite charge in itself, but it is a crime.) Not to mention good ole fashion Federal Conspiracy charges. I don't think a mosque could be considered legal counsel and or giving legal advice.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:19 am to Stinger_1066
You people who are so quick to redefine the definition of citizenship need to think about that next time some liberal wants to redefine the definition of the right to bear arms.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:19 am to TH03
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you are literally writing a textbook example of the "no true scotsman" fallacy lmao
I DON'T frickING CARE.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:23 am to ProjectP2294
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Why?
Your ignorance knows no bounds.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:23 am to Stinger_1066
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Your ignorance knows no bounds.
Then educate me.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:26 am to Fishwater
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Also potentially committing the crime of Obstructing Gov't Operations. (A bullshite charge in itself, but it is a crime.) Not to mention good ole fashion Federal Conspiracy charges. I don't think a mosque could be considered legal counsel and or giving legal advice.
The poor reading comprehension of some people on this site astounds me.
Go back and read the statement from the mosque again.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:26 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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CAIR is a legal defense organization. He is telling them to consult an attorney.
There is a nuance here you don’t seem to grasp. “Consult an attorney” is not the same as, “refer all inquiries to this specific group of attorneys”. One is general advice, the other is specific direction.
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You think everyone has a private attorney on speed dial, and the money to pay them?
Usually, you don’t need an attorney unless you are being accused of doing something wrong. And if so, you can stop any such inquiries by simply requesting an attorney be present.
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You can disagree with CAIR, and I do on many things, but one of their main objectives is to provide legal resources for muslims.
I don’t think that is what is happening here. I think the religion itself is trying to control the narrative by preemptively asking its members to refer all inquiries to a single legal group in complete alignment with that religion.
Where do you suppose the accomplices will go for legal help?
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:28 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:29 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Force feed them a ham sandwich if they don’t talk!
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:29 am to ProjectP2294
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Then educate me.
Christians forced conquered Native Americans to assimilate in order to advance the Christian religion.
Where did you study American history? Or have you ever studied American history?
This post was edited on 1/2/25 at 9:32 am
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:30 am to TH03
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no, he was american, full stop. being a shite for brains convert to islam doesn't negate that.
It actually could, depending on a variety of circumstances.
We don’t know much about this individual, or even the extent to which his identity is proven.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:31 am to OceanMan
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There is a nuance here you don’t seem to grasp
I fully understand the situation. You are the one that is failing to grasp it.
As evidenced by the below quote:
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Usually, you don’t need an attorney unless you are being accused of doing something wrong.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:32 am to Stinger_1066
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Christians forced conquered Native Americans to assimilate in order to advance the Christian religion.
Which Christians?
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Where did you study American history? Or have you ever studied American history?
Yes. Several places.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:32 am to Stinger_1066
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The perp was. How many others in his mosque are?
Hard for me to consider em Americans considering what their child raping prophet tells them to do.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:33 am to OceanMan
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It actually could, depending on a variety of circumstances.
Oh really? Can you elaborate on that?
What actions could he have performed that would negate his American citizenship prior to any due process being performed?
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:34 am to TH03
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you think a literal natural born and raised american citizen somehow isn't a citizen because he committed a terrorist act.
How you may lose your American citizenship
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Commit an act of treason against the United States
This post was edited on 1/2/25 at 9:36 am
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