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re: Terrorist’s mosque is ordering its members to refuse to talk to fbi

Posted on 1/2/25 at 8:47 am to
Posted by Stinger_1066
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 8:47 am to
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We’re not dealing with Americans.


The perp was. How many others in his mosque are?
Posted by Stinger_1066
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 8:50 am to
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This is a really bad look especially about not speaking to the FBI. What if a mosque member knows something the FBI could use the to fill in all the pieces? This looks like the mosque is hiding something. I’d find another mosque if I were any of these people. This is a terrible look.


Nope. You hire an attorney and let him do the talking.
Posted by Stinger_1066
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 8:51 am to
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Yep. As long as these derkas don’t identify as Christian conservatives they should be fine talking to Bidens FBI


You realize that Muslims voted in favor of Trump, right?
Posted by Dawgsontop34
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 8:54 am to
It feels like everyone took this thread as they’re saying not to talk to the FBI, when in reality it says not to talk to the media; and if you talk to the FBI to have legal representation with you.

That’s pretty American the last time I checked.
Posted by Stinger_1066
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 8:55 am to
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I don’t care if theyre citizens


This invalidates any opinion you have.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 8:56 am to
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CAIR is basically a think thank/legal defense force


He is just telling his congregation to not speak to the FBI without a lawyer, which CAIR would provide.

It's sound advice. While there may be complicit members of the mosque, there are assuredly others who are not.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 8:57 am to
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The perp was.


Maybe on paper. But to attack innocent people to advance the objective of world domination by your backwards arse "religion" is not American.
Posted by OceanMan
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 8:59 am to
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I actually don't have a problem with his statement.


Yeah, I understand. From a civil rights perspective there isn’t anything wrong with what he said.

But again, there is an active manhunt for accomplices to an act of terrorism on the US. A religious leader urging people to not help in that investigation, and instead defer to a national group that protects the religion’s interests, kind of makes this seem like religious extremism.

He didn’t say consult an attorney if you are approached by law enforcement (ie know your rights), he said don’t talk, the collective will talk. When the collective is also the group that represents the aggressor, it makes it difficult to separate one from another.

This is of course Islamic-Western relations in a nutshell. I don’t trust the FBI either but I’m also not burying my head in the sand that Islam wants to hurt Americans, and we rely on the FBI to stop that from happening.
Posted by Stinger_1066
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:01 am to
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I'm a Catholic that just goes with the flow but would be fully behind another Crusade.


What is stopping you from joining one or starting one of your own?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:02 am to
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That’s pretty American the last time I checked.


Exactly. People let their emotions cloud their judgement.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:03 am to
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Maybe on paper. But to attack innocent people to advance the objective of world domination by your backwards arse "religion" is not American.


he was literally born and raised in Texas, which last I checked, is America.

you don't get to "no true scotsman" this guy. you just look like a retard.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:05 am to
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No American should ever talk to the FBI without an attorney present. Ever. For any reason.



They aren’t fricking American. I don’t care if theyre citizens, they belong to an ideology that fundamentally hates the west and hates American values. They harbor enemies and breed violence against Americans.

No muslim is an American.


42 upvotes to 11 downvotes for this retarded nonsense. but yeah, y'all only want illegals out, not legals and naturally born citizens you don't like.
This post was edited on 1/2/25 at 9:06 am
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:05 am to
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he was literally born and raised in Texas, which last I checked, is America.


And at some point was radicalized against the US.

If you don't understand what I'm saying, that's fine. But your inability to grasp it doesn't mean it's wrong.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:06 am to
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A religious leader urging people to not help in that investigation, and instead defer to a national group that protects the religion’s interests, kind of makes this seem like religious extremism.

He didn’t say consult an attorney if you are approached by law enforcement (ie know your rights), he said don’t talk, the collective will talk. When the collective is also the group that represents the aggressor, it makes it difficult to separate one from another.


CAIR is a legal defense organization. He is telling them to consult an attorney. You think everyone has a private attorney on speed dial, and the money to pay them?

You can disagree with CAIR, and I do on many things, but one of their main objectives is to provide legal resources for muslims.


Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:07 am to
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when in reality it says if you talk to the FBI to have legal representation with you.


That’s not what it says. It say if a response to the FBI is necessary, refer to these specific groups.

That is “do you have any knowledge of these attacks?”….”please refer to the center on American-Islam relations”

Regular Americans get their lawyers from billboards, not terrorist advocacy groups.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:07 am to
no, he was american, full stop. being a shite for brains convert to islam doesn't negate that.

you are completely wrong and trying to minimize the problem here by pretending he isn't a true scotsman.

quite literally everything he ever did in his life was american because it was done by an american
This post was edited on 1/2/25 at 9:08 am
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:07 am to
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If you don't understand what I'm saying, that's fine. But your inability to grasp it doesn't mean it's wrong.


No, it's wrong.
Posted by Stinger_1066
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:08 am to
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Maybe on paper. But to attack innocent people to advance the objective of world domination by your backwards arse "religion" is not American.


You may want to ask some Native Americans how they feel about that.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:10 am to
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no, he was american, full stop. being a shite for brains convert to islam doesn't negate that.


You keep repeating the same thing illustrating you either don't understand or refuse to acknowledge what I'm saying.

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you are completely wrong and trying to minimize the problem here by pretending he isn't a true scotsman.


I'm trying to minimize what problem? And we're not talking about Scotland.
Posted by Stinger_1066
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:12 am to
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Maybe on paper.


Yes, that paper is called the Constitution of the United States of America.
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