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re: Temporary barriers constructed around FBI HQ in Washington DC
Posted on 8/15/22 at 4:54 pm to LegendInMyMind
Posted on 8/15/22 at 4:54 pm to LegendInMyMind
“If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell”
...Legend at the yelling stage
...Legend at the yelling stage
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Posted on 8/15/22 at 4:55 pm to Bronc
quote:
Bronc
You are a useful tool for propagandists. You're simultaneously claiming that Trump is guilty of something (because the media told you so) and yet the government is opposing a request to unseal the affidavit that formed the basis for the warrant.
Posted on 8/15/22 at 4:55 pm to Bronc
I'm not yelling. You're a certified nut. I don't think anyone here will debate that.
Have fun, now.
Have fun, now.
This post was edited on 8/15/22 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 8/15/22 at 4:56 pm to LegendInMyMind
quote:
Bronc is a true nut. You people should know this by now.
Excellent point. I got bored and didn't follow my own rule that I preach here often:
You can't reason with those who would fleece you, jail you, then frick your kids. You just can't.
With that, I will follow my own advice and log off.
Posted on 8/15/22 at 5:02 pm to LegendInMyMind
quote:
You're a certified nut.
He's just a brainwashed idiot. If there was anything in that affidavit that corroborated Trump being involved in criminality, it would have been leaked to favorable media outlets, in the same manner that the Russian propaganda bs was leaked. That it hasn't makes me wonder if there's even a supporting affidavit at all.
Posted on 8/15/22 at 5:03 pm to SCLibertarian
quote:
claiming that Trump is guilty of something
I have not said he is criminally guilty of anything at this point, though I have my suspicions that at a minimum, some notable improprieties took place based on the timeline we currently have and how Trump and his ally's story keeps changing.
quote:
yet the government is opposing a request to unseal the affidavit that formed the basis for the warrant.
Citing threats to witnesses and jeopardizing the investigation.
And here's the thing, this would be what they would say/do in any situation, you just want to use it as a basis to dismiss the FBI in this specific situation cause it's the outcome you want to be true. It's a typical rationalization process of adding facts or doubt wherever it is needed to draw the conclusion you want to be true.
Personally, I'm willing to wait and see what the evidence shows and how the investigation progresses.
Posted on 8/15/22 at 5:07 pm to LegendInMyMind
quote:
I'm not yelling. You're a certified nut. I don't think anyone here will debate that.
Have fun, now.
Trump cultists declaring those posting links to the law and facts of the case are the "nuts"
...yeah, that tracks
Posted on 8/15/22 at 5:11 pm to Bronc
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Trump cultists declaring those posting links to the law and facts of the case are the "nuts"
You've adjudicated the man guilty based on a warrant where the Feds are opposing the release of the supporting affidavit that formed the basis for the search. Who of us is actually the one brainwashed? It's hilarious to see leftists turn full neocon on reflexively trusting law enforcement and the surveillance apparatus.
Posted on 8/15/22 at 5:16 pm to Bronc
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Trump cultists declaring those posting links to the law and facts of the case are the "nuts"
Shut up, you racist Commie groomer....
Posted on 8/15/22 at 5:18 pm to SCLibertarian
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You've adjudicated the man guilty based on a warrant where the Feds are opposing the release of the supporting affidavit that formed the basis for the search.
As already replied and responded to you directly
I have not said he is criminally guilty of anything at this point, though I have my suspicions that at a minimum, some notable improprieties took place based on the timeline we currently have and how Trump and his ally's story keeps changing.
On the other hand, most of you seem 100% convinced of his innocence and are already priming the pump to declare any evidence that could be presented as part of a master conspiracy to frame Trump.
Like I said as well, I'm willing to see where the investigation goes, wait to draw hard conclusions til more comes out, most of you seem to have already set up your rationalizations to defend Trump though.
Posted on 8/15/22 at 5:18 pm to SCLibertarian
quote:
You've adjudicated the man guilty based on a warrant where the Feds are opposing the release of the supporting affidavit that formed the basis for the search.
You do know you're arguing with someone who is either on or should be on some serious psych-Meds, correct?
Bronc is an angry, racist Communist you will get no reasonable arguments from him.
Posted on 8/15/22 at 5:25 pm to Bronc
quote:are you implying that--after years of failed impeachments, spygate, accusations of russian election tampering, being a KGB asset, and a myriad of other political hitjobs with zero proof or convictions of any kind--that this time, the law and facts are on YOUR side?
“If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell”
are you still convinced that Trump was going around acting like a dictator, doing whatever he wanted, breaking tons of laws, now selling classified nuclear secrets, and it's just that no one has been able to find the right proof yet to "get him", even though he's been under a microscope since 2015 with the entirety of DC, the media, hollywood, big tech, and roughly half the country that votes (D) doing whatever they can to put him in jail?
quote:is this not the exact strategy liberals employ to shout down dissenting opinions? we have years of video evidence of blue hairs REEEEEing in casual debate, so much so that it's become quite the meme.
If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell
Posted on 8/15/22 at 5:30 pm to Bronc
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On the other hand, most of you seem 100% convinced of his innocence
There's this thousand-year legal concept that's the foundation of our justice system. It's called the presumption of innocence. But again, in your zeal to get Trump, you and the rest of the TDS crowd would throw that away in an instant. You've all become the modern equivalent of William Roper in A Man for all Seasons.
Posted on 8/15/22 at 5:31 pm to Logician
quote:
are you implying that--after years of failed impeachments, spygate, accusations of russian election tampering, being a KGB asset, and a myriad of other political hitjobs with zero proof or convictions of any kind--that this time, the law and facts are on YOUR side?
are you still convinced that Trump was going around acting like a dictator, doing whatever he wanted, breaking tons of laws, now selling classified nuclear secrets, and it's just that no one has been able to find the right proof yet to "get him", even though he's been under a microscope since 2015 with the entirety of DC, the media, hollywood, big tech, and roughly half the country that votes (D) doing whatever they can to put him in jail?
Good to know you think Hillary Clinton is 100% innocent.
Posted on 8/15/22 at 5:33 pm to SCLibertarian
quote:
There's this thousand-year legal concept that's the foundation of our justice system. It's called the presumption of innocence. But again, in your zeal to get Trump, you and the rest of the TDS crowd would throw that away in an instant. You've all become the modern equivalent of William Roper in A Man for all Seasons.
I've said twice now that I am not drawing any hard conclusions on this until more evidence comes out.
I'm open to the idea that Trump may be innocent, can you say you are open to the idea of his guilt?
Posted on 8/15/22 at 5:34 pm to goofball
What's the Vegas line on how long they'll stay up?
Posted on 8/15/22 at 5:34 pm to SCLibertarian
Bronc is the king of googling whatever MSM article supports his stance and just regurgitates the talking points. No original thoughts at all
Posted on 8/15/22 at 5:37 pm to Bronc
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Trump cultists declaring those posting links to the law and facts of the case are the "nuts"
No, I declare you a nut because of your posting history. You viewing everything through an orange lens is but more proof.
Posted on 8/15/22 at 5:38 pm to Bronc
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can you say you are open to the idea of his guilt?
The man has yet to be charged with a crime, much less convicted of one. If that's the case, every man on Earth should be deemed suspicious. But I guess that's the end result of your dystopian ideology.
Posted on 8/15/22 at 5:38 pm to goofball
I hope it is to keep those bought, corrupt thieves IN, not others out.
This post was edited on 8/15/22 at 9:20 pm
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