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re: Tell me about Earl K. Long
Posted on 1/11/23 at 5:38 pm to boxcarbarney
Posted on 1/11/23 at 5:38 pm to boxcarbarney
quote:marred by the rather average chick playing blaze starr
Just watch the 1989 movie Blaze
Posted on 1/11/23 at 5:46 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Lotta misplaced disdain for Huey P in here. He certainly shook things up, and didn’t always do things in the right way, but he was up against the establishment who didn’t fight fair either. He directly had a positive impact on increasing education across the state and making life better for the average person through development (road paving, bridge building, etc).
Would love to hear specifically how he is responsible for the demise of the beautiful state of LA.
Would love to hear specifically how he is responsible for the demise of the beautiful state of LA.
Posted on 1/11/23 at 5:54 pm to Lsunited12
Would you not say his policies and policy proposals were extreme left wing even borderline in the same realm with Soviet Russia? That’s why I think he was a net negative not only on Louisiana but America as a whole. Him not gaining larger influence was a good thing for humanity. Maybe you like left wing extremism as a political model but surely you understand many don’t
This post was edited on 1/11/23 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 1/11/23 at 6:05 pm to OGtigerfan87
There’s a difference between what actually transpired and what could have transpired had his life not been cut short. My views are based upon his actual accomplishments, not where he falls within the political spectrum. He sure ruffled a lot of feathers by challenging long-standing political machine (who were owned by the corporations, Standard Oil for example).
Which of his enacted policies set Louisiana back? Not a loaded question, I’m genuinely curious. By no means am I anywhere near an expert in Long, just read the T Harry Williams book on him a few years ago.
Which of his enacted policies set Louisiana back? Not a loaded question, I’m genuinely curious. By no means am I anywhere near an expert in Long, just read the T Harry Williams book on him a few years ago.
Posted on 1/11/23 at 6:06 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Loved the movie Blaze especially the part where he shoots the lawnmower and leaves his boots on during sex because they give him more traction.
Posted on 1/11/23 at 6:11 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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He was committed to the mental hospital and then fired the state doctor in charge of mental health and the new one he appointed set him free.
was hoping someone would post this = he then went around bragging that he was the only man in Louisiana that could PROVE he was sane.
what a great time to be alive!!
Posted on 1/11/23 at 6:21 pm to SaintlyTiger88
My father in law knew the Long's well - was one of their local political advisors for our area.
He said that someone asked Huey if Earl was really his brother.
Huey said
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"Well all I know is that one time when we leaving church late, there was only one baby left in the room where they were kept during the service. Earl said he didn't know if it was Earl they took home that morning, but it was damned sure not the same blanket!
He said that someone asked Huey if Earl was really his brother.
Huey said
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"Well all I know is that one time when we leaving church late, there was only one baby left in the room where they were kept during the service. Earl said he didn't know if it was Earl they took home that morning, but it was damned sure not the same blanket!
Posted on 1/11/23 at 6:47 pm to SaintlyTiger88
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I’ve heard that he was committed to a mental institution at one time.
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It was a hospital in North Baton Rouge.
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He was committed to the mental hospital and then fired the state doctor in charge of mental health and the new one he appointed set him free.
He was later sent to John Sealy in Galveston by his wife and the Louisiana Director of Hospitals so he couldn't get out as easily as he was able to in his home State.
Interesting character.
St. Mary's News Now - "When Earl K. Long's Mental State Made News"
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He was always volatile and hot-headed, but reporters began to publicly hint at the governor’s overuse of alcohol as early as April, when the Associated Press reported the governor’s hijacking of a legislative budget hearing “with his bottle of Tichenor’s antiseptic on the table before him.”
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But things really began to unravel in late May, when Long railed for more than an hour and a half and, the AP said, “poured out scathing criticism” on legislators and political enemies … “as he screamed into the House microphone in a stinging, stump-speaking style.” They noted that he drank from a glass filled with “what appeared to be grape juice” during the tirade.
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Two days later, the governor’s wife, Blanche, announced that Long had been ordered to bed “for several days” and that he was suffering from exhaustion. One of the people helping to make that decision was Jesse Bankston, Louisiana’s director of hospitals, who thought Earl needed more than bed rest at the governor’s mansion.
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He thought Long needed to be confined for psychiatric evaluation and that the confinement needed to be outside Louisiana, so that he could not use his powers as governor.
On Saturday, May 30, Earl was strapped to a gurney, put aboard an Air National Guard airplane, and flown to the John Sealy Hospital in Galveston. The doctors were told that Earl had agreed to be admitted. They soon found out differently. The AP reported that Long “refused to cooperate with hospital authorities.” The Galveston Daily News said his refusal included “a couple of violent episodes.”
This post was edited on 1/11/23 at 6:49 pm
Posted on 1/11/23 at 7:37 pm to sosaysmorvant
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The Long family did more to screw this state than anything else in existence. Louisiana should be one of the richest states in the union, yet we are dead last or right above Mississippi
I do not have a high opinion of the Longs, but I disagree.
Both were corrupt, but they still looked out for the state and its citizens. They got their piece of the action, but it was on a percentage basis and the state benefitted far more (unlike with other governors who were solely looking to feather their nests [and those of their cronies]).
Posted on 1/11/23 at 7:55 pm to Lsunited12
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My views are based upon his actual accomplishments, not where he falls within the political spectrum. He sure ruffled a lot of feathers by challenging long-standing political machine (who were owned by the corporations, Standard Oil for example).
Huey Long, a demagogic populist, accomplished good things for the poor during the depression. He also took big oil's money and put it in his own pocket.
Long wildly enriched himself, his heirs and friends, and normalized the practice of Louisiana politicians running for office to get elected and get rich. Leander Perez and Edwin Edwards are more recent examples most of us know.
Norway's population is similar to ours, and they too have significant oil and gas resources. Public college is free, poverty nearly non existent. Norwegian government invests their oil and gas revenues in a sovereign wealth fund, worth $1.2 trillion today. Think about that for a second.
I realize we're not Norway, and yet they're an example of what's possible when politicians work to better their constituents lives and improve government, instead of wondering what's in it for themselves.
I'm afraid that possibility for us is Long gone, never to exist again. That we voters allow it is the saddest part of all, on both sides of the aisle.
Posted on 1/11/23 at 7:58 pm to Mr Breeze
The long opponents opposed progress. They didn't even want a bridge connecting new Orleans to rest of state.
Posted on 1/11/23 at 8:21 pm to SaintlyTiger88
My uncle had two nightclubs on Bourbon St, the El Morocco and the Jazz LTD. One the his father called him and said "The governor in town and he's looking for you. He wants you to meet him at his suite at the Roosevelt Hotel."
So he went and met with him. He said all Earl wore is his underwear.
The governor said "Where's my campaign contribution?
My uncle said "Governor, I thought I'd wait until the secondary election to donate. You'll still need the money."
My uncle says Earl told him
"Dems that give me money in the first election, dems are my friends. Dems dat donate in the second, well dems I give good government. "
So he went and met with him. He said all Earl wore is his underwear.
The governor said "Where's my campaign contribution?
My uncle said "Governor, I thought I'd wait until the secondary election to donate. You'll still need the money."
My uncle says Earl told him
"Dems that give me money in the first election, dems are my friends. Dems dat donate in the second, well dems I give good government. "
Posted on 1/11/23 at 8:21 pm to prplhze2000
Was a great teaching hospital with a strip club across the parking lot
Posted on 1/11/23 at 8:34 pm to TheFonz
I seem to remember a photo taken of EKL leaving the nut house with a pillowcase or blanket over his head. Or maybe it was when he was photographed leaving 'a lady of the night' residence.
The only decent, honest governor Louisiana ever had? Not even close, Mike Foster.
The only decent, honest governor Louisiana ever had? Not even close, Mike Foster.
This post was edited on 1/11/23 at 8:43 pm
Posted on 1/11/23 at 8:35 pm to SaintlyTiger88
His ancestors live next door to me
Posted on 1/11/23 at 8:36 pm to Jim Rockford
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For anybody who doesn't already know, the late, great, "Dandy Don" Long was his cousin.
Did not know this. Thanks for sharing.
Posted on 1/11/23 at 9:05 pm to Mr Breeze
Interesting anecdote about Norway, but using it as a shining example of what Louisiana ‘could have been’ is beyond a stretch…corporate interests from other parts of the US taking advantage of LA’s natural resources and short changing the citizens of LA is not Long’s doing. He fought against that. And I can’t imagine that’s something Norways government as had to contend with, as I imagine a lot of their oil companies are government-owned/sponsored.
Also, there are clear cut example of career politicians around the US enriching themselves through their political machines and their grifting before Long ever got into politics. This was brought to the nations attention in the muck-raking era when Teddy Roosevelt was president.
Now as to why Louisiana is dead last in everything? I attribute much more of that to flight of capital after natural disasters like the flood of 1927 than to any one individual like Huey Long.
Also, there are clear cut example of career politicians around the US enriching themselves through their political machines and their grifting before Long ever got into politics. This was brought to the nations attention in the muck-raking era when Teddy Roosevelt was president.
Now as to why Louisiana is dead last in everything? I attribute much more of that to flight of capital after natural disasters like the flood of 1927 than to any one individual like Huey Long.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:46 am to Lsunited12
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Interesting anecdote about Norway, but using it as a shining example of what Louisiana ‘could have been’ is beyond a stretch…corporate interests from other parts of the US taking advantage of LA’s natural resources and short changing the citizens of LA is not Long’s doing. He fought against that.
Corporate interests taking a resource owned by the State can be managed by robust and honest governmental oversight. That Long "managed" them for his personal financial gain is not in dispute.
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And I can’t imagine that’s something Norways government as had to contend with, as I imagine a lot of their oil companies are government-owned/sponsored.
Briefly, true and run by competent professionals fully accountable to governmental oversight boards, with outside investors allowed such as Exxon and Shell.
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Also, there are clear cut example of career politicians around the US enriching themselves through their political machines and their grifting before Long ever got into politics.
There are many examples, none of which excuse Long's or any politicians similar behavior. Long was simply better and more brazen with it than most.
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Now as to why Louisiana is dead last in everything? I attribute much more of that to flight of capital after natural disasters like the flood of 1927 than to any one individual like Huey Long.
Seriously, 1927 is your reference point?
All the major oil co's had significant engineering and operating offices in Nola until they left for Houston in the 90's / 2000's. Business wise generally, Nola was on par with Houston and Atlanta in the 60's and 70's, and blew it. I could go on but it's obvious, and pointless.
The reason Louisiana is dead last in "everything" is because of our ingrained political culture of corruption, and the apologists that keep voting for it.
I would suggest you are a perfect example.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 1:10 am to Mr Breeze
The Old Regulars and their planter allies were looting Louisiana long before any of the Longs came on the scene. Huey Long was more efficient at it, but he was hardly unique. And he at least made sure some of the state's wealth trickled down to the common man in the form of schools, roads and hospitals. which was a previously unheard of concept in Louisiana governance.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 1:14 am
Posted on 1/12/23 at 6:10 am to Jim Rockford
"A poor man's three best friends... Jesus Christ, Sears & Roebuck, and Earl K Long"
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