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re: Teen turns down plea deal for 25 years in prison, gets 65 years instead
Posted on 4/6/18 at 4:27 pm to Volvagia
Posted on 4/6/18 at 4:27 pm to Volvagia
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But if the actual perpetrator of the act didn’t commit murder, how could you be an asscessory to murder?
Your commission of a felony led to the result of someone being killed, not your negligence or failure to perform a duty, but your knowingly deciding to commit a felony. In knowingly deciding to commit a felony such as burglary, it is reasonably foreseeable that someone will get hurt or killed during the crime. You are responsible for your actions, your actions started a chain of events that led to someone being killed
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Posted on 4/6/18 at 4:29 pm to DemonKA3268
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Should've went with:
He is good at getting the Utes off.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 4:34 pm to DemonKA3268
So he was 15 when this happened. Kind of sick that people think it's ok to lock up kids for life when it's pretty well known that decision making parts of the brain aren't fully developed. Yes, being removed from society is appropriate but perhaps the focus should be shifted to actual rehabilitation in an institution other than prison with adults.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 4:36 pm to Northshore Saint
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So he was 15 when this happened. Kind of sick that people think it's ok to lock up kids for life when it's pretty well known that decision making parts of the brain aren't fully developed.
That is what is more unsettling to me in this case than the felony murder rule being applied. How many people actually get 65 years for murder, much less a 15 year old kid?
Posted on 4/6/18 at 4:56 pm to Northshore Saint
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So he was 15 when this happened. Kind of sick that people think it's ok to lock up kids for life when it's pretty well known that decision making parts of the brain aren't fully developed.
I can definitely say that nobody I knew, even loosely, was out these types committing crimes at 15. He’s a piece of shite and deserves to be locked up forever. Society is better without him.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 6:04 pm to TigersSEC2010
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I can definitely say that nobody I knew, even loosely, was out these types committing crimes at 15. He’s a piece of shite and deserves to be locked up forever. Society is better without him.
Probably because most people you knew at that age grew up in relatively normal conditions. Who knows what this kid has seen growing up. At some point as an adult you have to come to terms with things and work through your shite as to become a functioning member of society but we're talking about a teenager. We don't treat teens as adults when it comes to a lot of things because we know they're not mentally capable of making wise decisions. Truthfully I think the driving age should be raised to 18 but that's another topic for debate.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 6:46 pm to jchamil
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How many people actually get 65 years for murder,
Automatic life without parole, in Louisiana
Posted on 4/6/18 at 6:49 pm to Demshoes
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This guy either got some very bad legal counsel, or ignored good legal counsel. What a dumbshit.
My bet is on ignored.
Clients like this take delight in ignoring their attorney. He probably had a public defender and pretended to believe his public defender was either clueless or in cahoots with the DA.
I know of a guy who rejected a plea offer which would’ve had him out of jail in a couple years. He insisted on a trial, torpedoed his own case, and now sits in Angola serving a life sentence. Just can’t reason with some people.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 6:59 pm to Volvagia
quote:I agree that it's a bull shite law. It's absurd to charge anyone much less someone who was 15 for murder when there wasn't even a murder. Those idiots downvoting must not have read the article or are just incredibly dumb.
Okay, he is a POS, but that is a bull shite law.
Hopefully, this get overturned. If I were on a jury, no way I find someone guilty of murder in that case. I tend to hate accomplice law crap anyway. Downvote away.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 7:11 pm to jchamil
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Your commission of a felony led to the result of someone being killed, not your negligence or failure to perform a duty, but your knowingly deciding to commit a felony. In knowingly deciding to commit a felony such as burglary, it is reasonably foreseeable that someone will get hurt or killed during the crime. You are responsible for your actions, your actions started a chain of events that led to someone being killed
I get the logic chain.
I’m saying it’s bullshite how it’s applied sometimes.
Here is another example, which I think *might* have fallen under the same state/law.
Bunch of trash 20 somethings throw a party.
Heroin is involved.
Guy passes out.
Through an freak accident, the tub they put him in fills with water.
Everyone who shot heroin is charged with asscessory to murder.
Edit:
Only one I could find happened here in LA, not AL, and there was no tub filling with water.
However the spirit of the law is the same: some one dies from OD, everyone involved gets a murder rap.
This post was edited on 4/6/18 at 7:42 pm
Posted on 4/6/18 at 7:15 pm to Volvagia
Sounds like some St. Tammany bullshite.
This board is so freaking bloodthirsty. Bitch about taxes, and want everyone to rot in jail. At the same time breaking whatever laws are inconvenient to them.
This board is so freaking bloodthirsty. Bitch about taxes, and want everyone to rot in jail. At the same time breaking whatever laws are inconvenient to them.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 7:22 pm to JamesLang
Good call, it happened in Plaquemines 
Posted on 4/6/18 at 7:35 pm to idlewatcher
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insertBoldStrategyCotton
Posted on 4/6/18 at 7:38 pm to jchamil
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If you're going to commit a burglary, a reasonable person should be aware that there is a chance someone might get killed. Whether that person is killed by the burglar, the police, or the victim protecting themselves, you still should realize there is a fairly decent chance someone is going to get hurt, possibly even killed. Don't want to be charged with felony murder? Don't commit a felony
If someone is killed in the commission of crime I get that.....the cop shot and killed his accomplice and he gets a murder charge?
That makes zero sense. Like none.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:01 pm to Volvagia
I said sounds like. Am I wrong?
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