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re: Tangipahoa Parish rape victim ordered to pay her abuser child support

Posted on 6/14/22 at 10:35 am to
Posted by MFn GIMP
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 10:35 am to
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Well I mean if you want to get into the morality of it that’s one thing, but the law is (arguably unfairly) clear that there’s no ignorance of age excuse for statutory rape. IIRC even being shown a fake ID has been held irrelevant and not a defense.


You're right that mistaken age isn't a defense in these types of situations but the fact that a guy can have his life ruined because a girl told him she was 18+ and was in a place that you have to have an ID showing you are 18+ to get into is a bit ridiculous, no? It seems like you should be able to safely assume that someone in a bar is of legal age.

With that said it's still illegal but not necessarily a "heinous" act as others have said IF the girl said she was 18 and the guy took it at face value due to where he met her. That is completely different than a 30 year old picking up a 16 year old girl on the street or committing forcible rape.
Posted by Modern
Fiddy Men
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 10:37 am to
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unless the statue of limitations has expired


I thought rape doesn’t have SOL?

I could be wrong. I’m not a lawyer.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 10:38 am to
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She made a bad decision which very well could have been due to peer pressure.


Maybe.

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No, but the Bar should have. And if she was inside the bar and drinking, they should be held with some kind of liability.


100% agree

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He is fricking 30 years old.


Emotional argument is emotional.
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Maybe you should be aiming a little higher than an 18 year old that looks like she might be 16. Despite what is popular on a message board like TD, most 30 year olds don't tend to try to get with seniors in high school or incoming freshman in college.


Wut? Older guys wanting to bang young pussy has been around since the dawn of man.
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Louisiana law states not knowing her age isn't an excuse. So no matter your opinion or my opinion on the matter, the law says it's Rape. He got proof of being the father and age of child and mother proves the age of the occurrence.


Props on completely missing the point.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 10:40 am to
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Here's another thought, if you are 30+ at bars trying to pick up drunk girls that look between 16-18, and you aren't sure, but "trust" she ain't lying cause you want your dick sucked by that drunk chick, you're a predator POS and in a more just world they'd lock your arse up


That's a retarded jump to a conclusion, but you do you.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 10:41 am to
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a judge awarded full custody to a woman's abuser and forced her to pay child support.


This chick ain't winning no awards for being a good mother.. How bad of a person do you have to be for this to happen
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 10:43 am to
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And if she was inside the bar and drinking, they should be held with some kind of liability.


What a shitty opinion here.
Posted by sportsaddit68
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 10:45 am to
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Emotional argument is emotional.
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Pointing out that he is 30 isn't emotional even if I added a bad word in front of it. It's as fact as anything else in this case. He is 30. If you think a 16 year old should be blamed for knowing going to a bar, knowingly drinking, and knowingly going home with an older man... Then way would a man at an high age of maturity not be held accountable for his actions. He knows people lie about their age. He knows what happens if wrong. He should also know what happens if you knock someone up.

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Props on completely missing the point.


I get the point you are saying. You aren't saying he didn't commit a crime, but he might not be a horrible person that everyone is making him to be. All I am saying is, by law, it doesn't matter if he was a Saint or a Sinner. He did the crime and has people protecting him.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 10:46 am to
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What a shitty opinion here.


What's shitty about a licensed business being punished when caught not doing what they are legally obligated to do?

Business get hit for serving underage patrons all the time.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 10:48 am to
I show up with a fake ID and get some drinks and go do something stupid. The burden is on me fully for whatever I did

There
Posted by sportsaddit68
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 10:49 am to
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What a shitty opinion here.


If you are 16 and go to a bar, get allowed in and served alcohol, that bar can be and has been sued for drunk driving accidents. They have been sued and held liable for people dying of alcohol poisoning. So why would they not be held liable for having her get shite faced in the bar. I'm not talking about liable for paying child support. I am saying if they ruled she was too intoxicated to know what was going on and he raped her, they should be fined for allowing her to get into that condition.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 10:49 am to
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Pointing out that he is 30 isn't emotional


No, but saying a 30 year old shouldn't be a poon hound is.
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All I am saying is, by law, it doesn't matter if he was a Saint or a Sinner. He did the crime and has people protecting him.


I'm really not sure why you think I needed it repeated that he did commit a crime
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 10:50 am to
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girls that look between 16-18

You don’t know how old she looked.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 10:52 am to
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a guy can have his life ruined because a girl told him she was 18+ and was in a place that you have to have an ID showing you are 18+ to get into is a bit ridiculous, no?


How is not handing a rapist custody of his kid "ruining" his life?

And how about this. If you are dumb enough, predatory enough, to go to a BAR, see woman drinking, look at them and think, you know, they look between 16-18, so clearly any ID or age I ask they will lie anyways. THEN still decide to hit on them, take one home anyways, frick them. Thats on you.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 10:52 am to
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predatory enough


GTFO with repeating this same projection of yours over and over in this thread.
Posted by Box Geauxrilla
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 10:53 am to
At best this guy is a fricking idiot for busting raw inside of a girl he just met at a bar.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 10:54 am to
If you are falling down drunk, yea you need to be removed and sent out the door. I am not talking about the obvious people smashed like that. Obvious over serving should fall on the bar.

Problem is the line where the blame goes out. Its pretty easy to go into a bar and never actually go to the bartender and get completely hammered.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 10:54 am to
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You don’t know how old she looked.

I'm going off the premise the poster stated, that its not to be faulted cause 16 year olds can look 18. when, either way, she's 18 looking at a bar and you decided not to verify.

Which simply suggests you didn't want to, or care to know the truth.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 10:56 am to
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if they ruled she was too intoxicated to know what was going on and he raped her,

So like a pre-rape breathalyzer or field sobriety test?
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 10:57 am to
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GTFO with repeating this same projection of yours over and over in this thread.




Honest question, how many drunk 16-18 year olds you try to frick as a 30+ year old?

Cause you seem incredibly melty and defensive over calling someone in their 30's that hangs around bars, take's home, and raw dogs drunk 16 year olds(that maybe looked 18 but still wouldn't be legally drinking and would imply not to be trusted) on the first night "predatory behavior"
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 10:58 am to
Guys going to a bar are predatory Clown.
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