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re: Stepping down off meds (SSRIs)

Posted on 12/14/16 at 1:09 pm to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58562 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 1:09 pm to
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Yeah, I often wonder if I have have bouts of minor depression but I'm too scared of pharmaceuticals to go see anyone. I usually just try to play a frick ton of basketball and escape if I'm in a rut. That's works for me so far.


I know I do (we're lawyers after all). I also have mild social anxiety and have had worse bouts of anxiety in the past. I used to self medicate with alcohol more in the past, but deal with it now by forcing myself to have more "me time" and exercising regularly. It's working for me now.
Posted by junior
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2005
2246 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 1:10 pm to
50mg is a starting dose. Shouldn't be too bad w/ the reduction to 25mg
They do have a liquid, so you can do a very slow taper if needed.
Ask your MD
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80193 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 1:13 pm to
Yeah, I drank pretty heavily when I first started. Luckily I had a conversation with another friend of mine who was also just beginning to practice and he put some things in perspective for me. Since then I've really watched my drinking and really take affirmative steps to de-stress in a healthy way when it builds up.
Posted by DarthTiger
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 12/14/16 at 1:16 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 12:33 pm
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5139 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 1:18 pm to
Took Paxil for a few years for anxiety. I gained weight, could barely bust a nut, but the anxiety went away because I didn't give a frick about anything. Got to the point where I wasn't as excited as I used to be about the things I liked doing the most Figured it was time to get off them and it took me about two months to wean off. The brain zaps sucked but eventually all that will go away and you will be back to your "old self". But remember your old self is what you were trying to get away from in the first place!

Your energy is going to go way up but your anxiety will still be there because it was always there. The pill was masking that.

Listen to this part - most of anxiety can be controlled by yourself doing a few simple things. For me it's caffeine. I drank too much coffee and that made anxiety worse. Drank lots of alcohol too which will increase your anxiety the next day I still drink and drink coffee as well but in moderation. If you start feeling anxious go run or workout. And if you are on social media get rid of that crap. It only worsens things.

You have to accept that some people are wired different and will always have some anxiety. Once you accept that you are one of those people and then figure out what "triggers" you and how to avoid those, your battle is over.

Good luck man. Anxiety sucks

Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5139 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 1:20 pm to
Til;dr version

What you eat and drink are very big
factors in your anxiety

exercise works wonders

Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
17531 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 1:28 pm to
Tried to cut down on Celexa, but got irritable, so I went back to the regular dose. I have Xanax for panic attacks, but I rarely even take it now. I'm sure that if I really wanted to get off of Celexa, I could. 99% of the time i feel fine and feel like I'm just using it as a crutch.just in case. Went 3 days during the flood without it and did okay.
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5139 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 1:30 pm to
Yep it's that 1% of the time that sucks.

i have found that when I have to give a presentation or do some public speaking that not drinking coffee that morning helps a ton
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118714 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 1:30 pm to
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Listen to this part - most of anxiety can be controlled by yourself doing a few simple things. For me it's caffeine. I drank too much coffee and that made anxiety worse. Drank lots of alcohol too which will increase your anxiety the next day I still drink and drink coffee as well but in moderation. If you start feeling anxious go run or workout.


This is good advice IMO.
Posted by Tony The Tiger
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2003
2587 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 5:31 pm to
quote:

Took Paxil for a few years for anxiety. I gained weight, could barely bust a nut, but the anxiety went away because I didn't give a frick about anything. Got to the point where I wasn't as excited as I used to be about the things I liked doing the most Figured it was time to get off them and it took me about two months to wean off. The brain zaps sucked but eventually all that will go away and you will be back to your "old self". But remember your old self is what you were trying to get away from in the first place!

Your energy is going to go way up but your anxiety will still be there because it was always there. The pill was masking that.

Listen to this part - most of anxiety can be controlled by yourself doing a few simple things. For me it's caffeine. I drank too much coffee and that made anxiety worse. Drank lots of alcohol too which will increase your anxiety the next day I still drink and drink coffee as well but in moderation. If you start feeling anxious go run or workout. And if you are on social media get rid of that crap. It only worsens things.

You have to accept that some people are wired different and will always have some anxiety. Once you accept that you are one of those people and then figure out what "triggers" you and how to avoid those, your battle is over.



Great stuff and thanks for sharing the above. On the exact same path as you...
This post was edited on 12/14/16 at 5:32 pm
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
11727 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 5:40 pm to
If cutting the mg in half is too much for you to continue to feel well, go back to your physician. You may need to cut it only 1/4 initially and/or add another Rx short term while stepping down.

You must be sure to contact your physician tomorrow during business hours and let them know what you are experiencing. Also, if you feel like you may harm yourself or others call 911 and go to the nearest ER.

Also, you should not have been drinking while you were taking these meds and do not start drinking now.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32875 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 5:48 pm to
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My father has serious anxiety issues now. He was always a "worrier" but I really think since the flood it is to the point where he has issues just coping day to day. He calls me at least once a day stressed over stuff (I'm talking the smallest things too). I think he is suffering from some PTSD type stuff from the stress of losing everything in the flood. Relocating him here to AZ, while the best option for them, has also stressed him out as well cause he lived 68 years in BR and this place overwhelms him.


This almost perfectly describes my mother after Katrina. 11 years later, she is much more self sufficient but still doesn't make major decisions on her own. The parent-child relationship was severely altered when she came to Dallas after Katrina.
Posted by damnedoldtigah
Middle of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
4275 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 5:53 pm to
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He has medicare so I'm also gonna see if it would cover him seeing a therapist as well.


It should.
Posted by damnedoldtigah
Middle of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
4275 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 5:58 pm to
Check out these two links as an alternate to meds. I know for a fact the approach works.

LINK

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Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
17531 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 6:23 pm to
Caffiene and cigarettes are my vices, and i know if i cut them out I would ve much better off, but I would be worse off until then.
Posted by Paige
Vice President of the OT
Member since Oct 2010
84748 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 6:24 pm to
I've been on every SSRI, some are harder to quit than others

Read this article about weaning by using Prozac. It has a much longer half-life and I was able to avoid the brain zaps altogether the last time I quit an ssri using it LINK
quote:

Many of the symptoms of SRI discontinuation syndrome can be minimized or prevented by gradually lowering, or tapering, the dose over weeks to months, sometimes substituting longer-acting drugs such as fluoxetine (Prozac) for shorter-acting medications. The antidepressants most likely to cause troublesome symptoms are those that have a short half-life — that is, they break down and leave the body quickly.
Also for me the brain zaps usually start day 2-3 after completely stopping the med and only lasts 4-7 days

Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
128950 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 6:34 pm to
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The parent-child relationship was severely altered when she came to Dallas after Katrina.






Same. It seriously messes with my head at times. I keep telling myself it will get better once they find a place(they are still technically homeless and living with my aunt here in PHX). I was always daddy's little girl. Grew up looking up to my dad and would go to him with problems when I first moved out of home. Now...I'm like the parent to him. I have to reassure him now, make a plan, basically tell him what to do.


It's mentally exhausting and also just makes me so terribly sad to see my dad this way. It's like I don't recognize this person at all. I just want him to feel better and fix this for him, breaks my heart to see him like this.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32875 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 7:13 pm to
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I have to reassure him now, make a plan, basically tell him what to do.


This is it, exactly. It was scary and frustrating to experience. It was really sad to see a glimpse of my mom as an "old", confused person.

quote:

It's mentally exhausting and also just makes me so terribly sad to see my dad this way. It's like I don't recognize this person at all. I just want him to feel better and fix this for him, breaks my heart to see him like this.


It has gotten better but I've accepted that I'm now the "expert" on things instead of my mom. It's good that your parents are together as that will probably help them find their routine again once they're in their own home.

Hang in there. First step is getting them back into a routine - house, job or hobby, etc. You might have to FORCE him to do whatever it is he loves to do but it's essential to finding his confidence and power again. And it's ok to sometimes secretly resent having to parent your parent. Just know that you'll one day cherish the experience of being in a position to help them when they needed it the most.
Posted by PairofDucks
Member since Jul 2016
4992 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 7:27 pm to
Trazodone is not technically an SSRI because it's an old drug, but my doc put me on it for sleep after my divorce because I was depressed and could not sleep.

I still suck at sleep, but I can't sleep at all when I try to taper off. I still take a small dose (50 mg) because I need to sleep.
Posted by PairofDucks
Member since Jul 2016
4992 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

I've been on every SSRI, some are harder to quit than others


I would to pick your brain on your experience sometime. I have dealt with depression for years. It sounds like you have struggled as well, and I'm truly sorry about that. You've always been nice to me, even though I suck as a poster.

What helps you now?

How was your math test?
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