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re: Statistics Spinoff Thread: How much would you pay to play this "game of chance"

Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:36 pm to
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No one said you put in $2. That is the question. How much would you pay to play?


The way it's described it doesn't matter... actually the way it's described I'd put in as much as I had.

If I put in $1,000,000 and I flip tails I get my $1M back.

If I put in $1,000,000 and I flip heads I win and somehow the pot goes to $2M. Then if I flip tails and lose I get to keep the $2M pot.

So yeah... as much as possible is what I'd bet bc I'm keeping the magically doubling pot no matter what.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:37 pm to
I would pay 2 bucks to play.

"Statistics would suggest" 1.99 or less, I would presume.
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

The question is, how much would you be willing to bet to play the game.


All of it if I get to keep the pot when I lose.

quote:

Or if you are running the game how much should you require someone to pay for a chance.


I wouldn't run this game if the loser gets to keep the pot. I'd lose every time.
Posted by PearlJam
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

If I put in $1,000,000 and I flip tails I get my $1M back
No. You get $2 dollars. You aren't contributing to the pot. You are playing a game.
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
8050 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

If I put in $1,000,000 and I flip tails I get my $1M back.


No. If you risk $1,000,000 to play and flip tails, you get $2.
Posted by Rox
Member since Oct 2010
33333 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:38 pm to
No way he setup his scenario correctly.

Game of "chance"? More like Game of "lose nothing or win big"
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:39 pm to
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No way he setup his scenario correctly.
Or, some aren't understanding it correctly.
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
114938 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:40 pm to
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No. If you risk $1,000,000 to play and flip tails, you get $2.


No. If the pot starts at $2 and I risk $1,000,000 then the pot is now $1,000,002 and if I flip tails I receive a payout the size of the pot according to the OP.
Posted by PearlJam
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:42 pm to
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No. If the pot starts at $2 and I risk $1,000,000 then the pot is now $1,000,002
You aren't contributing to the pot. You are playing the game. The pot is $2. It doubles to $4 if you flip heads and you get to flip again.

It is a game with a cost to play. How much would you pay to play?
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 1:43 pm
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
8050 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:42 pm to
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No. If the pot starts at $2 and I risk $1,000,000 then the pot is now $1,000,002 and if I flip tails I receive a payout the size of the pot according to the OP.


You're now playing a different game than the one in the OP.

You are putting up money to PLAY the game. None of the money you are putting up goes into the pot. None. The pot is independent of the amount you are risking.
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
20027 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:42 pm to
Sounds to me like it would make more sense to play with these rules:

Pot starts at 2$

Player 1 must bet 2$ to play
Flip Heads = win 2$ and house starts game over
Flip tails and your 2$ is added doubling the pot

Player 2 may flip next but will require 4$ to play
Heads wins the pot
Tails is a loss which doubles the total and moves to...

Player 3 with a 8$ buy in.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17464 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:43 pm to
The answer is obvious. 2 bucks, max.

The pot never goes to zero.
Posted by sealedup
BR
Member since Oct 2011
169 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:43 pm to
$6
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
114938 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

You aren't contributing to the pot. You are playing the game. The pot is $2. It doubles to $4 if you flip heads and you get to flip again.

It is a game with a cost to play. How much would you pay to play?


$2
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
114938 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

None of the money you are putting up goes into the pot.


Well it would have been extremely fricking helpful to have that information in the OP then.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:45 pm to
I would pay $350 to play this game then
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

$2
That is a safe, no lose bet.

Now the 2nd question, what do statistics say would be the max amount you should pay?
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

No. If the pot starts at $2 and I risk $1,000,000 then the pot is now $1,000,002 and if I flip tails I receive a payout the size of the pot according to the OP.


You are not understanding the game. Let's just assume you are walking through a casino and you see a table with a dealer standing at it with a coin. You walk over to the table and ask him what game is this. He explains, you start with a $2 pot. I flip this coin and if it lands on heads the pot doubles. If it lands on tails, the game ends and you get whatever is in the pot. You ask how much to play. He tells you, it costs $X to play the game. OP is asking, what do you think X should be.
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
114938 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

The answer is obvious. 2 bucks, max.

The pot never goes to zero.


Right?

Pay $2 to play... the pot starts at $2... you win it goes to $4 and you keep going.

If you lose on the first flip you get the $2 pot (your $2 bet back) and you play again.

Posted by Aux Arc
SW Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
2184 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:46 pm to
Your bet is not what the pot is made of. The pot is house money, beginning with $2 and doubling for every consecutive heads flipped.

Wait a minute. You are being intentionally obtuse aren't you? I feel a hook in my jaw.
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