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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.

Posted on 8/25/14 at 11:37 am to
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/25/14 at 11:37 am to
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I have no doubt that Wilson has been interviewed, officially.


No doubt. Didn't mean to imply otherwise. Only to say we haven't seen what he said in those interviews. Only have some leaks, some rumors and nothing from the horse's mouth.

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I also have no doubt that there is more evidence than has been released.


Agreed.

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Having said that, the mob/media is hanging their hat on a grand jury indictment that only means there will be a trial.


Not convinced that there will be an indictment but time will tell.

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If PC existed for an arrest Wilson would already be in jail.


Many reasons why it wouldn't happen in this situation, including disparate versions of events and playing political hot potato.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20636 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 11:42 am to
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Wait, which part do you not agree with in the line you quoted?


What I quoted was Ree's point of wiew that we have been over many times before.

What I have stated in the past was the original protest was started too soon, not legally but ill-advised. I've later determined that facts be damned, they are a lynch mob.

Even though neither side of this has all the facts at least these guys waited until they had some.

More importantly, they aren't protesting for the officer as much as they are protesting the actions of the other protesters.
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 11:46 am to
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Not convinced that there will be an indictment but time will tell.


I don't think there will be one either.

Again, not arguing just saying.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20636 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 11:48 am to
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I don't doubt that it all ends up coming out as we've heard,...


You aren't looking deep enough. These are really counter protesters. Do you think they would be out there if there was no protest against the shooting? Imagine - BREAKING NEWS: WHITE OFFICER SHOOTS/KILLS UNARMED BLACK KID. PROTEST RALLY FOR OFFICER BEGINS ON SCENE ...
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20636 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 12:06 pm to
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Only to say we haven't seen what he said in those interviews. Only have some leaks, some rumors and nothing from the horse's mouth.


Your original point seems to be that these counter protesters are no better than the protesters. While I would like to take this point by point My first step is to point out an earlier point by 808. Correct me if I'm wrong but he believes that white people should protest sooner and more often than we do. This is a case where I believe this to be true. We need a bigger crowd out there to get more news attention and a better chance for DW to get a fair trial in all of this.

Justice for the cracker cop!!!!!
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20636 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 12:10 pm to
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I don't think there will be one either.


There WILL be an indictment. If there is none there will be hell to pay in Ferguson and everybody in that GJ room knows it. There WILL be a trial which MAY lessen the damage if anything but a guilty verdict comes back.

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just saying.


Never say that. It's beta.
This post was edited on 8/25/14 at 12:11 pm
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 12:18 pm to
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Never say that. It's beta.


I'm the kinder gentler police.

Seriously was talked to about how I speak to people. Was told I'm to truthful. ??????

Nothing offends like the truth I suppose.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20636 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 12:24 pm to
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eriously was talked to about how I speak to people. Was told I'm to truthful. ??????


What is "just saying" got to do with being truthful? I'm always truthful but feel no need to reinforce it.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69574 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 12:34 pm to
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Nothing offends like the truth I suppose.


Fact
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 12:55 pm to
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Your original point seems to be that these counter protesters are no better than the protesters.


Meh. I really don't care who protests what nor when. As long as it's peaceful. If their cause is a poor one to take up, they'll just look foolish. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of some when it comes to protesting before ALL of the facts come out. I'm actually good with people showing their support for Wilson.

Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 12:56 pm to
can we get OP to take "riots in progress" out of the title?
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69574 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 1:05 pm to
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can we get OP to take "riots in progress" out of the title?


delayed would be better...you know they will resume in october
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
18000 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 2:25 pm to
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Lol! "They" have vandalized...it sounds like vandals have vandalized. The majority of those people are exercising their right to assemble. Maybe that right only extends to those supporting Mr. Wilson.


The main question always go back to "why" they are supporting the officer? Is it the officer or that they think blacks stealing is worth their life?
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
18000 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 2:27 pm to
Most of them skate around that question, or deny that as being the reason or call for reverse racism, but then you read what his supporters say and their sentiments and it leads you to believe that they aren't on Michael browns side for other reasons
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125578 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 2:27 pm to
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My first step is to point out an earlier point by 808. Correct me if I'm wrong but he believes that white people should protest sooner and more often than we do. This is a case where I believe this to be true

So after 200 pages of sniping, you agree with me. Well done.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69574 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 2:28 pm to
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The main question always go back to "why" they are supporting the officer? Is it the officer or that they think blacks stealing is worth their life?


Seems like to me they are supporting the officer in reaction to all the protest against him. Why is he the villain if the facts haven't even come out?
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69574 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 2:29 pm to
sorry but that made me laugh
Posted by Hoyt
Alabama: The Beautiful
Member since Aug 2011
5613 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 2:30 pm to
It was bad about the break in last night in Ferguson... I can't believe they would do that after all this time!
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 2:32 pm to
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Why is he the villain if the facts haven't even come out?

this question will go un answered
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20636 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 2:33 pm to
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I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of some when it comes to protesting before ALL of the facts come out.


Hypocrisy of counter point??
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