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Posted on 8/3/18 at 10:52 pm
Posted by Missouri Waltz
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Posted on 8/3/18 at 10:52 pm
I learned something interesting tonight.

Yankee general and LSU superintendent William T. Sherman and Dred Scott are both buried at the Catholic Calvary Cemetery in St. Louis.

Confederate general and Ole Miss president Alexander P. Stewart, Dred Scott's owner Peter Blow, and Captain Henry Shreve are buried across the street at the secular Bellefontaine Cemetery.
Posted by dbeck
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Posted on 8/3/18 at 10:54 pm to
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I learned something interesting tonight.

You gonna tell us what it is?
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 8/3/18 at 11:04 pm to
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Peter Blow
Owlie’s dream date.
Posted by Missouri Waltz
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Posted on 8/3/18 at 11:07 pm to
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dbeck’s dream date.


FIFY
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 8/3/18 at 11:11 pm to
I've passed by Sherman's grave on the way to family funerals before.
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 8/3/18 at 11:13 pm to
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Confederate general and Ole Miss president Alexander P. Stewart, Dred Scott's owner Peter Blow, and Captain Henry Shreve are buried across the street at the secular Bellefontaine Cemetery.



I've been to the Bellefontaine Cemetery. It's really nice as far as cemeteries go. The author William Burroughs is buried there.
Posted by Missouri Waltz
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Posted on 8/3/18 at 11:14 pm to
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I've passed by Sherman's grave on the way to family funerals before.

Dred Scott's is only a few yards away just around the corner.
This post was edited on 8/3/18 at 11:15 pm
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 8/3/18 at 11:17 pm to
I don't know how nice Bellefontaine is. Calvary is very nice. As a Louisiana native though, I've seen plenty of more artistic cemeteries.

If you'd like to look around either of those though, I would highly recommend doing so between 8am and 11am.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 8/3/18 at 11:19 pm to
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Dred Scott's is only a few yards away just around the corner.


IIRC, you can see Sherman's from the road (the car path within the cemetary). I wouldn't have looked for it without the LSU connection.
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 8/3/18 at 11:19 pm to
Bellefontaine had some opulent stuff too. I never thought I would dig going to a cemetery.
This post was edited on 8/3/18 at 11:20 pm
Posted by Missouri Waltz
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Posted on 8/3/18 at 11:24 pm to
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I've been to the Bellefontaine Cemetery. It's really nice as far as cemeteries go. The author William Burroughs is buried there.

So is Sara Teasdale. Tennessee Williams is buried at Calvary.

By my count there are two Confederate and three Union generals buried at Calvary. There are five Confederate and 24 Union generals buried at Bellefontaine.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 8/3/18 at 11:27 pm to
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Bellefontaine had some opulent stuff too. I never thought I would dig going to a cemetery.


You should see some of the churches (regardless of religious affiliation).

The new Cathedral is the most incredible church I've ever been in. It was built in 1904 and is probably the most beautiful church in the US. It's called the new cathedral because the old one is the first catholic church west of the Mississippi (I think). Maybe the first cathedral.

The first time I walked in there was to do a Flat Stanley project for my nephew. I had to apologize to him because I couldn't bring myself to pull my phone out and take pictures. I was too awestruck.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 8/3/18 at 11:29 pm to
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Confederate general and Ole Miss president Alexander P. Stewart, Dred Scott's owner Peter Blow, and Captain Henry Shreve are buried across the street at the secular Bellefontaine Cemetery.

Those tombstones will one day be taken down
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 8/3/18 at 11:31 pm to
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Those tombstones will one day be taken down


As long as Mizzou has a standing invitation to the Independence Bowl, the Henry Shreve grave is safe.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 8/3/18 at 11:40 pm to
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The new Cathedral is the most incredible church I've ever been in.
You need to get out more.

And by “out” I mean to Europe.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 8/3/18 at 11:48 pm to
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You need to get out more.

And by “out” I mean to Europe.


I haven't been to Europe. I really would like to go to Italy, Ireland, and Belgium.

But the Cathedral Basilica in St Louis is an incredible church to see even if you've been to Italy and France.

St Francis Xavier (the SLU college church) and the St Francis de Sales Oratory (Latin Masses, not a parish church) are also beautiful.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 8/3/18 at 11:58 pm to


It does look nice. Europe’s churches are truly spectacular and unparalleled but NOLA has some gorgeous Catholic Churches too. One of the few things i like about the city. I got married here:

Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 8/4/18 at 12:05 am to
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It does look nice. Europe’s churches are truly spectacular and unparalleled but NOLA has some gorgeous Catholic Churches too.


That picture only tells about 1/1000th of the story.

I know NOLA has some incredible churches too. But I'm not blowing smoke about the new cathedral.



GIS: LINK

Posted by biglego
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Posted on 8/4/18 at 12:16 am to


It has a grand look. I would check it out if I was in the area.
Posted by ksayetiger
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Posted on 8/4/18 at 4:30 am to
So this is now a pissing contest comparing nola churches to 800 or whatever year old churches in europe?

I have been to dozens of cathedrals in europe. Climbed the steps to the bell tower in over 10 of them.

They dont compare, but, to be fair, it is like comparing tiger stadium to a new nfl stadium. Sure, the new stadiums are wonderful. However, there is something about the mystic of something old with history.

One thing that i admire, yet get weirded out by, is the number of people buried in the floor in a old cathedral
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